Which Sleepaway Camp for Kids?

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  • We’re considering sending our child to a half or full summer sleepaway camp in the northeast or Midwest starting next summer. Would love to hear about experiences Berkeley-area families have had doing the same. Was it tough for your child being from the west coast when (I’m assuming) most kids were not? Did it feel tough to maintain friendships during the school year when in-person visits were few or nonexistent? Any other considerations you would recommend keeping in mind? Would also love to hear if you have recommendations for a “camp lady” to help you search for camps, or particular camps you’d recommend. Feel free to message me directly via my username it you’d rather not post publicly. We’re most interested in traditional all-girls / all-boys camps that are down-to-earth and have a 7/8 week option. Thank you!

    North Country Camps!  https://www.northcountrycamps.com/

    My cousins, siblings and I went here for many summers.  As did my father and his siblings.  As did my grandmother.

    They are expert at dealing with homesick kids, but truly, for me and my siblings, the problem was being "campsick" after we got home.  Happy to tell you more.

    My niece and nephew - CA kids - went to https://www.farmandwilderness.org/ in Vermont for years and years, and the 23 year old is there right now working! 

    They and their parents are big fans :)

    schedule is not obvious at first glance from the website but my memory is they have two 1-month sessions and many campers stay for both.

  • We’ve been thinking about finding a sleepaway camp for some period of July or August for our camp-curious nine-year-old. The regrettable New Normal of California “Fire Season” had totally skipped my consciousness until I came upon one camp website that addressed their management of weeks and weeks of smoke in a recent camp season. Now I’m questioning if even thinking about a west-coast sleepaway summer camp is sensible. Posting to find out what other parents are thinking, and doing, about this—? Thanks in advance for any reflections. 

    Of course it's sensible to think about! Just don't plan for the parents to go out of town during the same week (so you can pick up your child if the camp is closed due to smoke).

    It is a concern. My kids have attended two different California camps, maybe 10 sessions between them, and they never actually had a session canceled. BUT they have been impacted by it a few times, and camps they have attended have canceled other sessions due to bad air quality and/ or actual fire danger. Most camps have good safety & evacuation plans, but you should plan to be able to pick your child up early for a smoke closure. If you can, consider a session in the last weeks of June when fires often aren’t as rampant yet. Also, you could think about near the coast like Farm Camp near Cazadero, where the risk of smoke closures, while still possible, may be lower than in the Sierra Nevada, Trinity Alps, etc. Another option, if you have the flexibility and resources, is to look at camps in the Midwest or Northeast. There is a huge summer camp culture in those areas, especially in New England & Maine, and your child could have different kind of experience — green surroundings, summer rainstorms, swimming in lakes that aren’t freezing, etc. Maybe even actual fireworks on the Fourth of July… You could take a parent vacation somewhere in the region during the session. 

  • My highly sensitive 10-year daughter has never been to overnight camp, and is scared to try. The pandemic only increased her fears. Sleepovers have not always gone well.

    I think she needs a nudge into trying a "short" camp (e.g., 2 or 3 nights) this summer. Does such a thing exist? Bonus if it is close to Berkeley. Most of the camps I see are 7+ nights and a 3+ hour drive away. 

    Hello!

    Girl scouts has several short overnight options. Our daughter started when she was 9 with just a two night stay. There is a camp in Marin county they offer so it's pretty close as well. Our daughter absolutely loved it and has gone back every year for longer and longer stay. It's a great program and also girls only which I think makes it extra special. You don't have to be affiliated with girl scouts to go to the camp. Good luck! 

    I understand why you want to force this but I don't think that you should. She's still really young and there's plenty of time to do try sleepover camp. I signed my son up for sleepaway camp the summer after 2nd grade and it didn't go well. He didn't eat or sleep much and he seemed afraid of one of the older kids when we picked him up. The kids put on a performance the last day of camp and I was really looking forward to it. But my son was cringing and hiding and really didn't want to do it so we left. We took him fir food and he ate like a horse and then he slept for most of a day. I felt really badly about putting him in such a stressful situation. Sleepaway camp was something I liked as a kid but my son doesn't like a lot of the things that I did.. Your daughter has clearly told you that she doesn't want to do it yet and I think that you should honor her wishes. Good luck to you both.

    Respectfully, would you reconsider this? It sounds like your daughter has gamely tried already, by participating in sleepovers. And they haven't worked for her, for her own reasons. Perhaps she's not only scared--maybe she simply doesn't want to be away from you, and her home? I'm an adult, and I don't want to be away from my family for three days! 

    If your child is scared to try a sleep away camp, and sleepovers have not always gone well, it sounds like she is not ready. While I understand that lots of kids go away to camp for several weeks at a time, 10-11 is still pretty young. I would focus more on the baby steps that might prepare her for camp (eg overnight visits with friend or family member away from you), rather than pushing her into a camp situation. 

    Does your daughter have any friends that might be interested in going to a camp with her, have you asked any of her friends mothers?  If she does not have close friends or someone that she is comfortable to go with, then drop the subject.  If sleepovers have not gone well, then stop trying to push her into one.    There are some kids that have anxiety over this issue and it is best not to push them.  Give her time.  Have her join a Girl Scout Troop and that could help.  

    We used to see sleep under the stars type events at Chabot Space Center and the Oakland Zoo that was one night thing on a Friday or weekend. I’m not sure if it’s still happening but that’s nearby overnight and seems fun for your kiddo’s age range :)

    NOBODY is more pro-sleepaway camp than me, for sure. I was a camper as a child, a counselor as a teen, and now the parent of two campers. That said, I see NOTHING to gain by making your child do something she is scared to do. Sleepaway camp is not right for every 10 year old, nor for every child/teen - regardless of age. Please don't send your child someplace they don't want to be, as it makes life very difficult for their counselor, and unpleasant for the other girls in the cabin.

    So what can you do? This coming summer, you can sign the whole family up for a stay at a family camp like YMCA Loma Mar, where they offer a mix of family/sleepaway options, so your child gets a feel for the camp experience without missing parents. You can also recommend to her age-appropriate fiction set in camps. Depending on how your family camp experience goes, you can then plan to feel her out for summer 2023 and think about if there is one friend who might also be interested (just one, as sending a small group of friends defeats the purpose of camp). There is literally no rush, and again, i can't urge you enough to consider her feelings and not send her a place she doesn't want to go.

    Haven’t done it but YMCA Camp Gulch is 6 days (which may be more than you want) https://www.ymcasf.org/programs/overnight-camp-camp-jones-gulch

    Point Bonita has family camps that are 2 nights: https://www.ymcasf.org/programs/family-camp-weekends-point-bonita

    For the family camps, maybe you go with another family and she can share a tent with another kid as a way to ease into it? 

    Do you allow her to sleep over at friend’s place? That can be a test run for an overnight as well. 

    For what it's worth, my son didn't go to overnight camp until he was 12. The first few nights were tough but he got through them and wound up absolutely loving it. he can't wait to go back! So, if it were me, I'd consider choosing a camp with enough days/nights for the child to have the opportunity to "get over the hump" and adjust to being there.  Just a thought...hope it helps. Good luck!

    Some YMCA sleep away camps have mini camps. I know that Camp Campbell in the redwoods has a "six day" (but 5 night) mini camp - scroll down until you see "six day mini-camp" https://ymap.ymcasv.org/PersonifyEbusiness/Program-Search/BR/RW/CAT/WEB_OVERNIGHT_CAMP/SCAT/YOUTH_OVERNIGHT/WL/Y/AUTO/Y

    YMCA has others in the area but this is the one my son went to and loved. It has the classic camp look with charming cabins, nestled in the redwoods in Boulder Creek with a stream, a big swimming pool, TONS of activities and well trained friendly staff. My son was terrified, worried if he could make friends after a bad year in 5th grade and it was the saving grace of the year. YMCA camps are affordable (comparatively) AND offer the classic camp experience, really they are a wonderful resource.

    There are other YMCA summer sleepaway camps in the area and each usually offers a slightly different program so just do a search.

    I suggest the tech camps at UC Berkeley. My kids loved them.  She can try out the day camp before doing the overnight camp. Maybe that would make it a bit easier. 

    I appreciate your sensitivity to your daughter. I cannot answer your question re: a "short" camp. However, I would like to encourage you to consider the emotional cost of such a nudge.

    My daughter is highly sensitive. She also did not like sleepovers or sleep away anything. She attended a school that required participation in sleep away outdoor education every year in the elementary grades and twice a year in the middle school grades. These were very difficult and caused emotional and physical distress including headaches, nausea and vomiting, and full-blown anxiety attacks. We made them work by getting the administration to agree to having me go along as a chaperone. Until they didn't, and a new administration required her to go without me. This caused my daughter great distress that impacted her every day life. I called her in sick one year and the next year made it clear that she would not go, period. I eventually found a child psychologist who worked in a cognitive behavior model that was a fit for my daughter, and she engaged in the work to a high level of success.

    My daughter was eventually able to go to sleep overs in late middle school. She started by going for the evening, and coming home when the others got ready for bed. Soon, she asked to stay the night. By the end of middle school, she was able to attend the outdoor ed trips without me and manage her discomfort (lots of compassion and support before, during, and after). The summer after her first year of high school, she asked to go to a two-week academic summer program in NYC where she lived in a college dorm. The transition was hard, but when I picked her up, she didn't want to leave. This year, she began her freshman year of college clear across the country with nothing but excitement at being on her own. While she keeps in frequent contact, it's not because she needs me to manage. It's because we enjoy each other's company and work hard to evolve our relationship. She's got this. I could not be more proud of her.

    Do you understand what's underneath your daughter's fear? What does she want? Would she like to go to a sleepover or camp but is afraid to, or does she not want to go at all?

    Would you consider having her or both of you work with a therapist to better support your daughter in increasing her ability to separate and develop independence in a way that builds her up? 

    Lots to think about. You've got this!

    I wholeheartedly agree with others recommending not forcing this on your child. I was the child who didn't want to go to outdoor school for a week in 6th grade and was absolutely MISERABLE for every second of it. It's just not for everyone. I never did sleepaway camp, thank goodness! I did not like camping, hiking or any of that and still don't. That being said, when I was 15, I was able to go to Spain and live with a host family for a month, so it's not to say that she will never want to leave your house. 

    I ask this in a deeply respectful way: Is the desire for her to try an overnight camp influenced more by a benefit/skill you imagine she will get out of it, or is this something that you are hoping will giving you a short break that hopefully will also be enjoyable for her?

    Either way, I understand the desire, and I would, like the others who have already chimed in, respectfully encourage you to consider the benefit you're after and seek alternative paths. If it is only for her benefit in terms of enrichment I imagine there could be many alternatives to a sleep away camp based on her interests, and if it's for your benefit maybe you could establish regular care with a babysitter or even camp counselor who could potentially do overnights at your place where you could take some time away. Best of luck to you and yours. 

    I'd like to add something here that hasn't been mentioned. When I was that age, I was very adventurous and really wanted to go an overnight camp. My parents signed me up for one night in Tilden Park, and then I stubbornly refused to go and literally never told them why. The reason? I didn't know if there would be a bathroom. I didn't want to ask because I was afraid the answer would be to go behind a tree, which never works out well for girls. So maybe ask more specifically what she might be afraid of - the food? the restrooms? wild animals? what would happen to you if she were away?

    I have another perspective on this; I brought up the idea of sleep away camp to my daughter a few years in a row starting at age 9.  Each year my daughter said no and I respected her wishes.  At age 12, i conspired with a friends family to sign both girls up.  My daughter was still un-ethusiastic but agreed to go because her friend was going and she was signed up.  When she came home she absolutely loved it and was mad I did not force her to go at age 9 and that she missed so many fun years at camp.  She has also expressed regret that I did not force her to do other things that she was adement at the time she did not want to do.  Moral of the story: whatever we choose to do as parents, its the wrong thing.  Secondary moral: only you know your daughter.  Maybe she needs a push.  Maybe a push will scar her for life.  The rest of us can only tell you what our experiences as children or parents have been.   

  • My almost-10-year-old has never been to sleepaway camp, and we're thinking a shorter visit might leave a more positive impression. Are there any awesome sleepaway camps that offer shorter sessions for 10 year olds? I've seen a few mini camps but they're often aimed at 7-8 year olds. Thanks!

    Hi I just answered a very similar question and highly recommended YMCA Camp Campbell which has a six-day mini camp that is just 5 nights. See my comment in the other posting, I highly recommend the YMCA camps, beautiful nature, great cabins, wonderful activities, well organizied and a wonderful experience all around.

    There are other a few YMCAs in the area...

    1. YMCA Camp Jones Gulch in La Honda - this one seems to offer a short 4 night, five day camp for grades 4-8 (so ages 9-14?); and it looks like in session 2 it offers a 3 night camp for grades 2-8 (ages 7-14?). https://www.ymcasf.org/campjonesgulch/camp

    2. YMCA Camp La Mar is very close to Jones Gulch but offers longer stays of 7 nights

    I just responded to a similar question and highly recommended YMCA Camp Campbell. I see that YMCA Camp Jones Gulch in La Honda seems to have some even shorter options.

  • Hi. I'm looking for a sleep-away camp for my 10yo. The only two weeks that work for us are August 16 and August 23, but we're flexible on length of stay. 

    It'd be his first time at a sleep away camp, but he's very outgoing and independent. Maybe best to start with a shorter stay away from home. He's not into organized sports or arts and crafts, but loves the outdoors, swimming, fishing, making stuff, nature, etc. 

    Please share your recommendations, suggestions, and experiences. Thanks. 

    I did significant research on this topic earlier this year. I don't think there's going to be many (any?) camps running that late into the summer, because they are all staffed by college students who need to get back to school. Also, by this time, many camps are full for 2021, perhaps because there is limited capacity to some extent because of COVID, but also because camps are going out of business so demand is higher for the remaining spots. For next year, I suggest starting to look in January and booking around March.

    if your 10 year old is entering 5th grade, it looks like trackers may still have a spot in the Aug 16 week.  https://trackersbay.com/youth/overnight-camps-bay

    I just researched this for my 13yo son. There are a few overnight camps that still have openings. Maybe check out: Hidden Villa (in Los Altos), Natoma (Paso Robles), Camp Unalayee Base Camp (Trinity Alps), and Camp Chrysalis. I don't remember the exact dates that were open but do know that they all had availability. 

  • I am hoping to send my 11-year-old granddaughter to a one or two week overnight camp within a few hours of the SF Bay area. She enjoys outdoor activities, nature, animals (especially horses), and arts and crafts. She is not big on sports. I am having trouble finding clear and recent recommendations for camps to consider. Can anyone here help with suggestion(s) for a specific camp that would likely be a good fit?

    One camp I am considering is Plantation Farm Camp. However, all the reviews I have found are from years ago. I’m wondering if anyone has any current information about this camp. Any information would be helpful. 

    www.campaugusta.org MIGHT still have a few spots.  They are one of the few camps that fills 100% every year.  It is incredible - partially because they train the counselors!  At many summer camps the staff arrives on Friday and the kids on Saturday.  At Camp Augusta, the staff has week of training clear communication and challenge by choice.  It is truly lovely.

    Your daughter might like Bar 717 Camp near the Trinity Alps.  It’s more than a few hours from the Bay Area, but the camp charters a bus that leaves from Oakland Airport, so it’s easy.  They have horses and other animals, outdoorsy activities, crafts, etc., and there aren’t organized sports.   It’s very rustic.  

    Hidden Villa has a wonderful overnight program.

    www.hiddenvilla.org/programs/summer-camps

    Hi my son went to the YMCA Camp Campbell in a redwood valley behind Cupertino, same age 11 for 2 weeks. This was 3 summers ago (we normally live in Europe so he hasn't been back but has been to another YMCA sleep away camp in New Hampshire last summer). 

    We loved Camp Campbell. Looks just like you hope a summer camp to look, cute cabins, rustic charming main lodge for eating, swimming pool with all the bells and whistles, tons of activities to choose from (crafts, creative stuff, plus more athletic, survival or outdoor challenge stuff). There are four 1-hour sessions of activities you sign up for plus other less structure time.  Well trained counselors, well-run camp, they build team work, focus on acceptance and friendly atmosphere. Affordable.

    There is a stream running through it to do nature stuff, and the camp is under a beautiful canopy of redwood trees. We were in the States just for a year, and my son dealt with some bullying in his class as he couldn't quite keep up with topics taught in a new language (he's fluent in English, just not used to learning in English) so by the time of the summer camp he was really dreading dealing with new kids and I was worried too, but it was perfect because they really focus on a friendly atmosphere, build a sense of community with these chant-songs that they sing back and forth, no media/electronics allowed so kids get away from that and lots of really nice kids. https://www.ymcasv.org/ymcacampcampbell/html/summer_about.html

    I see there are also a few other YMCA sleep away summer camps (sometimes they call them "residential camps") in the bay area. The one annoying thing in looking at YMCA sleep away camp options is that there is no central website and each of their camps has their own web-layout, along with their own programs, costs and dates. Some specialize in really innovative ideas, some particularly those on the East Coast offer really spectacular activities and some focus on certain themes so it can take a little bit of time to find all the necessary info of activities, "dates and rates," and openings.

    My son spent 2 weeks and loved it, Camp Campbell was wonderful. If anyone reading this ever has a chance to do the YMCA camps in New England, these are even more impressive and I would really recommend them. Several of them have airport pickups available for the older teen kids.

    Two places my kids have gone are Girl Scout camps (have camps with horses) and YMCA Jones Gulch in the Santa Cruz mountains. You don't have to be in Girl Scouts to do their summer camp. Both are more reasonably priced than some of the private camps and my kids have liked both. YMCA has buses from the Berkeley Y, and Girl Scout camps have buses from either Alameda or San Jose, depending on which site they go to. Skylark, in the Santa Cruz mountains, has lots of horse programs and my daughter liked it a lot.

    I don't have personal experience with this camp, but I have been considering the Girl Scout sleepaway camp in Santa Cruz (Skylark Ranch) for my daughter because they have horses. Does anybody have recent experience with this camp?

    https://highsierracamp.com/ is wonderful. My 11 year old went for a week last summer and is counting the minutes until he can return.

  • Jewish Sleepaway Camp

    Oct 13, 2018

    Our second grader is excited about trying sleepaway camp next summer when she will be 8.  I was not ready at that age, but she is an outgoing and social kid.  We're considering Jewish camp, and I'm looking for reviews of recent experiences at Ramah NorCal, Camp Newman, or Camp Gilboa closer to LA.  We attend a conservative synagogue, and our daughter goes to religious school there, although as a family we are not particularly observant.  Paying for camp will be a big expense for us (likely displacing funds we would use for family vacations), and I'd like for her to be at a camp that doesn't feel like a bunch of privileged kids who go to fancy camp and then on to fancy vacations for the rest of the summer.  Most of all, we want for her to be in a loving and welcoming environment with opportunities to explore her Jewish identity and all of the usual camp activities and social experiences.  Any thoughts or recommendations?

    My girls attended Camp Tawonga and really loved it. The cost is pretty comparable to the others and there are a number of financial aid options (as there are for all the Jewish camps, I think.) They have 1, 2, and 3 week sessions. A Taste of Camp (Session I) is a good way to start. It is only 5 days (Sun - Fri). If she's been away from home for a week or more already, you might want to do the 2 week session (Session II).

    You can also get more info on ALL the Jewish camps at https://www.jewishcamp.org/one-happy-camper/

    Hello! I've heard wonderful things about Camp Tawonga from former counselors and campers. The camp is very welcoming, not super religious, and offers financial aid. Because the camp is right outside Yosemite, there's a big emphasis on the outdoors, with opportunities for backpacking and daily hikes. It sounds like a great place to spend a summer!

    My daughter is counting the days until her third summer at Ramah NorCal begins!  It was her first overnight camp experience in 2017and was a game changer - camp has become a hugely important part of her life and she stays in touch with camp friends throughout the year. It is a very down to earth camp (not at all “fancy”...we are a Berkeley family and it feels very familiar culturally) with a warm community and excellent staff. One of her best friends who is an anxious kid had tried overnight Jewish camp elsewhere for two summers and sadly had to go home after a few days both times. This past summer she went to Ramah NorCal with my daughter and had the time of her life. Will be returning for a month in 2019. The Camper Care Team is fantastic and they do an amazing job really seeing and knowing all of the children. It’s a warm, sweet, supportive and fun Jewish environment. I can’t say enough about this camp. Feel free to contact me if you want to talk!

    My now third-grade boy attended Camp Ramah in Northern California this past summer for the "Taste of" week, where they engaged in all of the specialty activities (adventure sports, water sports, theater, etc.). He absolutely loved it--being on the beach, the Jewish culture (we also attend a conservative synagogue), the varied activities, the kids and counselors, and even the food. He loved it so much he is signed up for two weeks for summer 2019, and I registered my second-grade girl for the "Taste of" this coming summer as well. Any questions, just ask! 

    Our daughter attended Camp Ramah NorCal/Galim as a rising third grader in summer 2018. She was a first time overnight camper and had the time of her life! She connected with new friends of various ages, felt welcomed, had so much fun, and can't wait to go back next summer. The camp is focused on community, Jewish living, and deep dives into an intensive of the camper's choice. She did Ocean Explorations and loved the time in the water and ocean science. She's ready to go back next summer for the sports intensive. She loved the singing and the food and the community. We also love the immersive Jewish context. She is already signed up for next year! 

If your son is interested in fly fishing or learning how to fly fish, the Fly Shop in Redding runs a great overnight camp. http://www.theflyshop.com/camps/fishcamp. He'll be able to meet a bunch of kids who share his interest!

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Overnight Camp for artsy 8 year old boy?

Feb 2015

Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend an overnight camp for an 8 year old boy who is more artsy and not sporty. He likes the woods and camping, but doesn't like any sports at all. thanks! Anne


My kids are older, but they adore uCamps. It's an arts camp with a little bit of everything in the Santa Cruz mountains. The director and counselors are fantastic with kids and make sure everyone feels welcome and comfortable. There is structure to the day, but the kids get to choose what they do from a variety of options. And my kids say the food is good! The session for kids your son's age is called uCamps Discovery (2nd-8th graders) and it will be August 2nd-August 7th this coming summer. You can check out their website: ucamps.org Feel free to contact me if you have questions. Lucy K
 


Overnight summer camp for vegetarian 10yo boy

Dec 2013

My son would like to attend summer camp in 2014, and I'm trying to find a place that offers vegetarian meals. Does anyone have any good suggestions within three hours of the Bay Area? He will be 10 years old next summer.

My daughter, who is two years older, has attended three different Girl Scout Camps and they do a great job with special diets. Before each meal, they announce that vegan and vegetarian meals are available at the dining window and she was satisfied with the food. In particular, she liked Skylark Ranch the best, followed by Deer Lake, if anyone is looking for recommendations. I'm hoping to find a similar overnight camp for boys: fun, reasonably priced, traditional camp with vegetarian meals on offer. Any suggestions? Thank you! Jenn


You might try Full Belly Farm - they do one week summer sleepaway camps. It's about 2 hours from the East Bay and a really amazing place. (They are a CSA). While I'm not sure if the meals at camp would be solely vegetarian, I'm sure there would be a lot of vegetarian options. We recently signed our kids up for a half day kids-camp thing, part of the annual Full Belly Hoes Down, and they had a blast. They're vegetarian, and the lunch that day was veggie. I don't see anything listed on the site yet for camp in 2014 (fullbellyfarm.com) but I'm sure they'll put info up eventually, or you can email them via the site. -- likely parent of a future Full Belly sleepaway camper