Living in Pinole
Parent Q&A
I like to tell parents the best determining factor for a child's success has little to do with the school they attend and more to do with the family environment they come from. Parents (caregivers) who care and are involved in their child's education both at school and at home make the difference no matter where their child attends school. They also make the difference at the schools their children attend. Schools with not-great test scores but great parent involvement should not be ruled out. We attend a fantastic school in Pinole (Ellerhorst) after moving here two years ago. It is very diverse in every way you can imagine- we have socioeconomic diversity, cultural diversity, ability diversity (we have 3 classrooms for severely and non-severely handicapped children) and political diversity. We have a strong and committed PTA and a very active Dads Club. I'm so happy to be part of this community. Some other pluses of this particular area (Pinole Valley-the community that begins at the east side of the freeway off the Pinole Valley Road exit) are the lush rolling hills with hiking trails, the wildlife, the better summer weather and safety. My big kid can ride his bike freely throughout the valley with the other neighborhood kids. But hurry before home prices get crazy- prices here are starting to take off!
Loving Pinole
I'd second previous poster's glowing recommendations of Pinole. I can't speak personally to the experience of LGBT families, but can say that there does appear to be a lot of diversity here (ethnic, economic, generational, etc). My 20-month daughter and I go to our local playground almost every day and see kids there from all different backgrounds. Our neighborhood has a lot of empty-nesters but also a LOT of new families moving in. We're probably going to send our daughter to the East Bay Waldorf School for at least her preschool education, which would not be everyone's choice, but have also heard wonderful things about Ellerhorst and are still thinking seriously about going the public route for grade school. I'm happy to talk in more detail if it would help -- feel free to PM me :)
I can highly recommend Pinole. I have heard very good things about the Cameron School, in El Cerrito, which offers speech therapy and preschool style classes for students who qualify in WCCUSD. If you choose the back part of Pinole Valley, you get to send your daughter to Ellerhorst, which is a very good school. I think you are priced out of El Cerrito if you want to keep it under $700k, but should be able to get something nice in Pinole if you move quickly when you see a house you like. Pinole Valley is safe, family-friendly, and diverse. You can walk to the local park, but everything else is about 1.5 miles away. We have a Trader Joe's, Sprouts, Peet's etc. plus a bunch of chains and a handful of mom and pops.
I know some folks who live in Benicia and have spent a good bit of time there. I like it a lot and it is definitely walkable and has a lot of charming small businesses on 1st street. It doesn't feel very diverse and it doesn't really feel like it's part of the Bay Area proper. Most of the people we know here in Pinole go into the city or Oakland/Berkeley pretty regularly, whereas most of the people we know in Benicia don't really seem to like to cross the bridge.
I really feel like Pinole is one of the "best kept secrets" here in the Bay, and my husband and I joke that it must have a cloaking device on it or something. We feel close to everything but also far away, if that makes any sense. It also feels much less crowded here than it does everywhere else. Good luck with your search!
We bought a house next door in Pinole in 2013 and love it here. We have friends who commute to the city -- there is an express bus to downtown SF that picks up from Richmond Parkway Transit Center, and my husband works in Berkeley and gets there by either car (San Pablo Dam Rd to 24 to avoid 80) or commuter bus (picks up right downtown, a 5-minute drive from our house, and goes to Del Norte BART). Pinole has a farmer's market and CSA subscription options; there's a small pick-your-own farm in El Sobrante. We have neighbors from a wide range of racial/ethnic backgrounds, and another friend, a former Lutheran minister, pointed out that El Sobrante has just about every house of worship you can name in one small parcel of land :)
If you have specific questions, feel free to contact me directly. I would also highly recommend the realtor we worked with, Declan Spring from Red Oak Realty; he knows West County very well and is good at meeting people where they're at and giving them a realistic sense of their options.
We live next door, in Pinole. Some parts of El Sobrante are really lovely and some parts are downright weird since it is unincorporated. A few years ago when we moved it wasn't unheard of to see someone riding their horse to the local liquor store. Lots of people have big gardens and raise chickens, we know one family there that also has sheep and goats. The neighborhoods near Kennedy Grove are lovely and get a highly regarded elementary school, Olinda. Pinole is close by, and has a Trader Joe's, Sprouts, Peet's, etc. and a bunch of other big chain names. People seem to flow easily between El Sobrante, Pinole, and Hercules. Pinole also has a decent weekly Farmer's Market with at least a few organic vendors. This whole area is very diverse and we've met a lot of progressively minded people here, although we've also met a few older folks who definitely were not. I get the feeling this used to be a very conservative area but that a lot of the old guard is aging out/moving on and younger, more progressive families are moving in.
If we ever win the lottery we will move to Northbrae in Berkeley, but in the meantime we just feel fortunate to have found a section of the Bay Area that is still affordable and nice. We love being here, and the outdoor recreation availability has been more amazing than we first thought. It's awesome to be able to walk out your front door and access the Ridge Trail. Logistically: There is a truly excellent play based preschool in El Sobrante called Sunshine Playschool that I would highly recommend over driving to Berkeley. Your husband can take the Lynx bus from the park and ride in Hercules to the Transbay Terminal in downtown SF.
I'm just going to throw out a 3rd option: Pinole! It's farther from Berkeley than El Cerrito, but closer than San Leandro. We walk around and ride bikes around our neighborhood all the time with our 5 and 3 year old, and we are always running into other families out doing the same thing. It's a really family friendly town, our local school has an extremely active PTA and we've made more friends living here than we ever did after living a decade in Oakland. This summer they're doing live music and movie nights in the park, and families bring picnics and chill. My husband commutes to Berkeley during normal commute times and it takes him about half an hour. If you look at the back part of Pinole Valley, the part that gets Ellerhorst Elementary, you should be able to get a house in your size with a great backyard for between $600-650. We live there and are able to walk to the local park, which has playgrounds, soccer fields, and a baseball diamond. Pinole has excellent nature, a handful of decent restaurants, a great Farmer's Market etc. Take a look!
West Contra Costa County! We moved to Pinole in 2013 and are now very happily settled in with our 8-month-old daughter, planning to stay here for a long while. We feel like it's perfectly situated on the line between semi-rural (we have hiking trails in the hills behind our development, and neighbors with horses) and semi-urban (there's an independent coffeeshop downtown, a commuter bus that runs to Del Norte BART, a Saturday farmer's market, and very talented community theater). My husband commutes to Berkeley for work, which has good days and bad days, but is generally manageable. And when we are craving more culture, Berkeley and San Francisco are easy to get to. I can definitely feel the place shifting as more young professionals get priced out of Berkeley/Oakland -- the elementary schools are OK, middle and high school are by report not-so-great, but I would not be surprised if they look very different in 10 years.
Hope this helps. Happy to answer any more questions if you've got them!
I know this is not the part of the county you're asking about, but I wanted to put in a plug for west Contra Costa :)
We have lived in the western half of the county (Pinole) for 3 1/2 years and LOVE it. It is definitely an "up-and-coming" area (there are open houses in our development literally every weekend), lots of young families moving in. The houses are not cheap, but you could definitely get more house for your money than you'd find in Lamorinda or Berkeley. There are tons of hiking trails within an easy walk from our house; neighbors have chickens, goats, and even horses. Before my daughter was born last year, I regularly rode my bike downtown to write at East Bay Coffee Company; now I walk w/her to the playground around the corner from our house almost every day, and have met several very kind mamas and babies there. My husband commutes to Berkeley, and while 80 is sometimes challenging, there are back roads and workarounds that can spare you most of the traffic.
Public schools here are OK-and-on-track-to-get-better (one of the few up sides of gentrification), and we are 15 minutes from the East Bay Waldorf School in El Sobrante.
Happy to talk more about pros and cons if it's helpful. Good luck!
We live in Pinole after ten years in Oakland and are very happy here. It was a big culture shock at first, we accidentally called the police on the paper boy because a decade in Oakland told us that a man going slowly from house to house at 4 am was up to no good. I don't know about your price point, but I think you can rent a nice 3 bedroom house around here for $2600 and a 2 bedroom apartment for around $1900. Small houses like ours seem to be selling for around $500-550k. It's cheaper because the commute to the city is awful, but my husband commutes to Berkeley and it's not bad. I have a reverse commute to Solano County and that is smooth as butter. Pinole is a great place for kids. There are awesome parks and a lot of nature and in general it's just very chill and safe. We have a newly built Sprouts, a Trader Joe's, a third wave coffee place, a weekly farmer's market, and a bunch of mom and pop restaurants. There are not a lot of cultural opportunities though, and we still head into Berkeley/Oakland at least once a week. As far as schools, I toured Ellerhorst Elementary (a 7 on Great Schools) and talked to a lot of people in the neighborhood and people raved about it. I have no idea what we'll do for middle/high school since their reputations aren't great, but they are both newly rebuilt and who knows what they will be like by then. In general, I think that Pinole is a "hidden gem" in the Bay Area because driving through on the freeway makes it look like just a bunch of big-box stores, but it's so much more. When we wanted to buy we just kept driving up 80 until we could afford something, but now that we're here I've turned into a Pinole booster! Good luck with your search!
We live in West Contra Costa County (Pinole) and love it! While I don't know specifically about LGBT resources here, our area definitely meets your other criteria (diverse, low crime and affordable). We moved here 3 years ago and when we moved in, our neighbor across the street told my husband about how he and his wife had had their house broken into! ...in 1975. A big change from where we were living in Oakland.
We are a white family; our neighbors are white, black, Hispanic, East and South Asian. El Sobrante (the next municipality over) has a huge Punjabi-speaking community because it is the home of the only Sikh house of worship in the East Bay. The elementary school around the corner from our house is 40% white, 40% Hispanic, 10% Asian and 10% black. If I walk in one direction from the bottom of our street, I can get to the library, Trader Joe's and Peet's Coffee within a mile; in the other direction, I pass horses and cows.
There isn't a whole lot of "culture" here yet, but that is changing rapidly (gentrification, for better and worse, as people get priced out of Berkeley/Oakland) -- and we are only 20 minutes from downtown Berkeley outside of rush hour. I'd definitely encourage you to look at West County -- am happy to give more info if you want to contact me directly.
We don't have school-aged kids yet (first child due to arrive any day now :)), but we can speak quite highly of West Contra Costa County; we moved to Pinole almost 3 years ago and there seems to be quite a strong community of families here. We frequently see kids playing in each others' yards, and there are also a lot of public play spaces like parks and sports fields that are always well-used without being too crowded. For older kids, the city's pretty bikable although a bit hilly. The city's also very clearly putting in an effort to make itself more "community-friendly"; there is a winter holiday festival, a 4th of July parade and other activities that are increasingly well-attended. And both the houses and general cost of living are cheaper than you'd find in the eastern part of the county, and the temperature swings are not nearly as crazy either :)
Archived Q&A and Reviews
I'm moving to either Benicia or Pinole
April 2014
My 'husband' and I want to move to either Benicia or Pinole. We currently live in LA and are pre-retirement. I not ready to drop off the vine yet, but I want a lifestyle change. My goal is to be part of a pretty active community in a walkable charming old seaport town. My husband is a professional musician (piano player) who makes his living playing for famous(and not so famous) singers. He arranges charts, rehearses and plays shows(mostly Cabaret and standards).
Benicia seems to have a condensed downtown with a nice mix of businesses, Pinole is closer to the city and looks to have its downtown more spread out, but also a very cultural, thriving community.
I would love feedback. thank you
Hmm. I have worked for both cities but not lived in either. Benicia is by far more attractive with a larger historic district downtown and more view corridors of the bay. However, it is very much an island mentality, insular/small community, and you have to cross a bridge at $5/pop to get to the Bay Area. Pinole has easy access to the rest of the Bay Area but much more limited bay access. Benicia has a refinery and on occasion you can smell it. Pinole is not too far from the Rodeo refinery although I don't recall ever smelling it. Pinole has a Peet's, In n Out, and a Trader Joe's. Benicia's schools are arguably better. Property values in both places took a major dive during the recession. Both cities are relatively well-run, as these things go; I'd give Pinole the administrative edge. Personally, I would not want to live in so isolated a place as Benicia, but I know plenty of people who love it. It's much more of a state of mind than Pinole!
Pinole is OK. I spent some time there when we lived in the East Bay because there's a Chuck E. Cheese there that my kids liked, plus there was a Catholic shop downtown that I frequented on occasion. The core downtown area is kinda cute, but Benicia's got it beat by a landslide. Also, I am not aware of any arts scene in Pinole, though of course I could be wrong. I think you would be much happier in Benicia; from what I know of Pinole, it is not what you seem to be looking for. Hope this helps! Monica
Living in Pinole? Realtor recommendation?
July 2011
I'm thinking of moving to Pinole or areas close by such as El Sobrante. Pinole seems like a really nice low key town, with good access to hiking, etc, which is what I'm looking for right now. Commuting is not going to be a huge issue, my husband flies out of SFO twice a month and I have to go into San Francisco one or two days a week, I assume Bart will work for the latter. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone living in the area about what it's like to live there. I'd also really like to find a realtor who is clued in to the area, if you know someone please share. Julia
I've lived in Pinole for over 20 years and just love it. The residential areas are quaint and beautiful, and it's easy to get to know your neighbors. There are lots of retail shops in and around Pinole (Trader Joes, Burlington Coat Factory, Big 5 Sporting Goods, KMart), and many restaurants, including Outback Steakhouse, Applebee's and Mel's Original Diner just opened in town. The police and fire departments are prompt and respond quickly when needed, and the post office employees are very friendly. Pinole has a Safeway, Lucky, Foods Co. and Grocery Outlet. Also, on Saturdays, there is a great farmer's market by St. Joseph's Church.
I can highly recommend Victoria Curtis as a realtor who would help you find a place in Pinole. I have known Victoria since high school-she is very friendly and a real go-getter. She will not stop until she finds the perfect home for you. She works for Better Homes & Gardens Real Estate in El Cerrito. Contact her at (510) 305-7775 (work cell) or (510) 527-9800 (office), or e-mail her at Victoria [at] VictoriaLynnCurtis.com DC
Ken Rogai of Security Pacific helped me buy a house in that area over 10 years ago. He is a great agent - knows the area, helpful, realistic, and nice to work with. Appreciated a good agent
i can recommend my realtor....the greatest: sil addiago at coldwell banker, his office is in pinole.
I don't have a realtor to recommend, but did want to respond to your request for information on what it's like to live in Pinole. We have been here for the past eight years in the 'Old Town' area (the San Pablo Avenue/Pinole Valley Road corridor). For the most part, we really enjoy it here. There's a nice small town vibe with the amenities of a larger city and you're still only about 15 minutes from Berkeley (if traffic cooperates). One of the best things about living here, especially in the Old Town area, is that we are within easy walking distance of several parks, the Bay Trail, and a cute shopping district off San Pablo Avenue where there are several restaurants, a bakery, post office, year-round Farmer's Market, etc. During the summer there is a weekly outdoor concert and movie series at the local park, as well as other seasonal/holiday activities. In some parts of town there's definitely a semi-rural feel, which we like. We LOVE the newly renovated shopping center off Pinole Valley Road that is home to a new Trader Joes, Walgreens, and Chipotle. All of the other major big box stores are nearby too if you need them.
If you're moving to the area for easy access to hiking, you may want to consider looking for a place on the far side of town near where Pinole Valley Road turns into Alhambra Valley Road. That would put you close to several open space areas. As for commuting, you may want to look in to the LA Transbay bus line that has stops in the Richmond Hilltop area. It's a great alternative to BART if you work a regular 9-5 type job.
As for downsides to the area...It's definitely not as 'happening' as other parts of the East Bay, but that doesn't sound like it would be an issue for you. There is a little more crime here than I would hope for in a city of this size (some spillover from surrounding areas like Richmond?) but the police department seems to stay on top of it. The city budget isn't in great shape, but that's not unusual these days. Good luck with your search! We Like it in Pinole
We bought a house in Pinole earlier this year and we love it here. We used Wayne Chin at Vision Realty, he was a great resource for us. He also helped us understand all the loan options out there. My husband and I would recommend him in a heartbeat to anyone we know. Wayne stirred us away from several houses we liked as soon as he saw some deficiencies in them. He knows all areas along the 80 corridor. Wayne can reached at wayne [at] waynechinhomes.com or his cell is 510-813- 1379. Happy Homeowner
I bought a house in Pinole, near Old Town, and have been pretty happy here. The schools are not very good -- we're paying for private school -- but it's cheaper than moving. We can walk to Trader Joe's and Walgreen's, in one direction, and Fernandez Park, in the other. I would like to recommend my realtor, Cindy Wilson, who helped me with everything I needed to buy my house as a first-time homeowner. Additionally, she has taken the time to answer a few quick questions even after I moved in and everything was settled. Her web site is http://www.ifoundarealtor.com/ and her phone number is 510-685-5412. Lori
2005 - 2009 Recommendations
Richmond Hilltop/San Pablo Hills home
June 2009
Hello All we are first time home buyers, looking to purchase possibly in the Richmond Hilltop, or San Pablo Hills areas. Have priced some homes in these areas, and found some to be reasonable. Looking for 3 to 4bedroom 2bath home. Can anyone share your personal experiences regarding the neighborhoods, schools for elementary, middle and highschool ages. Would you recommend a family move to these areas? Know any places available or realtors who deal in these areas? Thanks for any and all responses. my own room...
Friends of ours live in Pinole (right around that area) and are happy with the ambiance and public schools. The town has a nice feel. Richmond is diverse--nice and not-so-nice areas--but personally I would avoid Richmond, since that is where you'd be getting all city services and I think the city is pretty strapped. LK
Sept 2008
Re: Cheaper but safe enough neighborhoods
I live in Pinole. It is a lovely community, and there are many price points within our City. Our schools are good, check the STAR stats online. IMHO San Pablo and parts of Richmond would be too rough. There are some great neighborhoods in Richmond, you just have to hunt for them. Good Luck in your house hunt. volvomomma
Thinking of moving to Pinole
June 2007
Hi, I'm thinking of moving to Pinole and was wondering if anyone can tell me which is the best neighborhood to live. I saw a posting from 2003 saying that ''The Valley'' is the best but I'm not sure where that is. Can someone provide some street names? I would also appreciate any info you can provide on this city. Thanks!!!!! Arlene
the ''Valley'' area in Pinole is not necessarily the best arrea of Pinole. It depends on what you are looking for. The Valley area( streets off Simas, Wright ave. etc.) have some nice ranch style homes and nice lawns. A nice park at the the foot of Wright ave. for soccer and baseball. The only problem with the area is you have to drive to everything. Grocey stores, post office, coffee shops, gas station, church and most schools. Another nice area of Pinole is old town Pinole. Lots of nice homes and an old time town appeal. Cafe's, coffee shops, post office, gas stations, flower shops, antique shops and a really nice park (Fernandez Park and baseball field) all within walking distance. joannie
We live off of Pinole Shores Drive in Harbour Cove and love it! There are some great neighbors, it is a quiet community with lots of kids and we are next to the bay trail. Liz
2004 & Earlier
Considering a move to Pinole
August 2003
We are considering a move to Pinole -- does anyone living there have insights to offer about schools, quality of life, good neighborhoods to look in, etc.? Also, what is the air quality like? Thanks. Sara
We've lived in Pinole almost 5 years and love it! I never even knew about this town before I moved here, but we have found it to be very family-friendly and really convenient whether we travel north, south, east or west. There are lots of things for families to do -- even a farmers market on Saturdays with an organic vegetable vendor. Pinole doesn't have quite the diversity that Berkeley does, for instance, but my children can play in the street with the other neighborhood kids and I don't have to worry about it.
As for the schools, I've heard Ellerhorst is good for elementary, but honestly, my children go to the East Bay Waldorf School, a private school in El Sobrante.
The best neighborhood is ''the valley'' out Pinole Valley Road heading east, although there are some other pockets of nice homes, including some new ones very close to the Bay.
As for the air quality, where we are the prevailing winds come off the Bay and blow any Tosco discharge up towards Crockett or Vallejo (although I haven't seen any specific report on the air in this area and probably should).
Carol
I aspire to live in Pinole. I almost made it, Im as far as San Pablo and working my way up, LOL. Pinole is a wonderful community of truly dedicated residents. If you get into Old Towne Pinole, (below the freeway), you will find wonderful old neighborhoods with good schools, nice restaurants and solid community.
I think you will be happy to be there. If you still have questions, the chamber of commerce as well as the local City Council have open door policies. Go meet some of the people who play and integral part in the workings of this little bay area gem. Please note, it has a very ''suburban'' feel. Not a Berkeley or Oakland feeling. ljk
Pinole just keeps getting better each year! Pinole Valley High was just completely rebuilt, they also just became an IB school. The principal has been there for 7 years, Kibby Kleiman, and he is excellent, responsive and thoughtful. A friend is a teacher there and she raves about the school, and plans to send her own son when he's older. The high school students often come to Ellerhorst Elementary (a wonderful school!) to host things like Science Night or have the band play for the Halloween parade, and they seem very sweet.
Pinole Middle has not been great in the past, and traditionally many families have chosen to send their children to a charter, private, or K-8 for middle school. However, the old principal that didn't seem to run a very tight ship left at the end of last year, and the new principal, Eric Mapes, was an assistant principal at El Cerrito High and has a strong reputation. I am cautiously optimistic that Pinole Middle, which has long been the weak link in the public schools here, may be about to turn around.
The city's politics are also trending more progressive than when we first moved here, there was a wonderful, peaceful youth-led BLM march recently, and the city council just flew the Pride flag for the first time ever in June of this year. The Bay Trail has had some major improvements down by the water recently, and there are miles and miles of gorgeous walking trails. The access to nature here is incredible, we've lived here for many years and just recently discovered a new network of trails at the top of the Pinole Valley neighborhood. We're also close to Kennedy Grove, one of the Bay Area's hidden gems. And of course Point Pinole!
There are slowly starting to be more independent mom and pop restaurants popping up in the historic downtown strip. We don't have as many choices as El Cerrito or Albany, but we have an excellent sandwich place (The New Deli), an excellent taqueria (El Sabor Latino 17), Korean BBQ (Nu Gu Na), delicious tacos (Que Onda), an amazing bakery that's been around for a century (The Bear Claw), good Chinese (Hunan Villa), great Indian (Tandoor Restaurant), an independent ice cream shop (Yumygurt), good Italian (Ristorante due Rose), an independent coffee shop (East Bay Coffee), an awesome, fairly reasonable gym/pool/tennis club (the Lakeridge), and etc. The local community pool is also nice, and hosts a swim team. We also really like the local youth soccer league, WCCYSL.
Come check us out on a Saturday if you haven't already: hit the Farmer's Market, get a cup of coffee from East Bay Coffee and a crumb donut from Bearclaw, walk down to Fernandez Park and follow the trail down to the water to feed the ducks and pick some wild blackberries. We love it here, and so do the other families who are new arrivals to our school. It's feels a bit lost in time, but in a good way, where neighbors know each other (I swear I see everyone at the Trader Joe's!) and kids ride their bikes all over town.
Pinole is great! We moved to Hercules - right next door - in 2016 after being priced out of Albany and we are so happy in the Pinole/Hercules area. Old Town Pinole is great - we love
the local coffee shop, Korean Restaurant, nice park, cute farmers market. My son goes to school in Hercules and we have been very happy but people also seem happy with most schools in Pinole too.
The area is beautiful and more relaxing than the inner Bay Area. There are some beautiful spots along the Bay Trail in Pinole and also Pt Pinole.