Advice about Transitional Kindergarten in Public Schools
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Universal TK vs. Preschool
–Oct 8, 2023Next year all 4 year olds are eligible for public school TK. What are the pros/cons of doing this vs. keeping your child at their dedicated preschool for year 4? Anyone else deciding between these options? What are the considerations? TIA.
Oct 8, 2023BUSD Transitional Kindergarten vs preschool
–Dec 29, 2020My son will qualify for TK next fall, and I’ve gotten conflicted advice about sending him to BUSD for that year (vs waiting until Kindergarten). I’d love to hear parents’ experience with TK, whether it is truly play based and developmentally supportive, or whether it feels early to send kids to a big public school environment. Has anyone had the experience of choosing TK over an additional year of private preschool and feeling either really great about the decision, or somewhat regretful?
From a logistical standpoint, does every qualifying child get into TK, or is there a waitlist? Should I have a backup option regardless?
Dec 29, 2020Does anyone have experience with the cut-off date for TK?
–Apr 22, 2019My daughter's birthday is on December 3rd. One day over the cut-off date for TK. Does anyone know how flexible the school board is for letting us enroll anyway?
Apr 22, 2019Transitional Kindergarten or Kindergarten?
–Nov 26, 2018Hi Parents
I would love to hear any of your advice or stories of your personal experiences with putting your children into TK vs K. Our daughter is a fall baby and misses being eligible for Kindergarten just by one month. She is very mature and focused for her age and it seems obvious to us that she is ready for Kindergarten. Her pediatrician saw her at her 4yr old checkup and said without a doubt that she is ready for Kindergarten. Yet with the new cutoff dates, she would have to do a year of preschool and then a year of TK before even entering Kindergarten at age 6. Has anyone tried to enroll their child straight into Kindergarten instead of TK? Are the public schools accommodating to parents' requests? We'd love to hear about your experience, and especially if you have experience with the Piedmont school system. My daughter can go straight to Kindergarten if she stays in her current private school, however the public school is telling us that even if she completes Kindergarten in private school, she will have to repeat Kindergarten when she transfers to public school due to her birthday. Would love to hear about your experiences on transfers also. Thanks so much for your help!
Nov 26, 2018Hi everyone, Our son was assigned to the T.K. program at LeConte for the 2018/19 school year. I'd like to hear feedback please from parents whose kids have done Transitional Kindergarten at either LeConte or at King Child Development Center. I checked the archives, I don't see anything helpful about King CDCs TK. Were considering getting on the waiting list to transfer our son to King, but I;m really hoping to get some advice and feedback from the community here first, to hear about your experiences, whether good or bad, Etc. I'm sure LeConte is nice, but we were hoping for King for several reasons. And, one of our son's preschool mates who he just "graduated" with was assigned to King... and his parents and I really were hoping for them to be together. A couple of additional notes and thoughts for us: * Our son is very bright, VERY full of energy, and definitely ready as far as academics are concerned, but still occasionally really struggles with his bigger emotions and with following directions (i.e., even though he's an exceptionally sweet and sensitive person, sometimes if he feels really angry or embarrassed it just overwhelms him and he either shuts down/hides or goes the opposite path and will lash out/hit). We take a pretty serious non-violent, "Daniel Tigers Neighborhood"; (LOL) approach in a lot of ways when it comes to helping him through these anger episodes and difficult moments, and his preschool has also been amazing in supporting him. What we do works well. But Im concerned about how teachers at school might handle this.... especially since he's going to be going from a 1:6 teacher to student ratio at his preschool all the way up to a 1:20 or more ratio at TK. Anybody have any experience with the teachers of TK at either location recently, and any thoughts on how they've handled helping kids at this age/stage learn self-discipline, how they approach reward versus punishment systems, etc.? Basically, if we get somebody who is old-school and uses taking away recess time or shaming as punishment, it is seriously not going to work. Any time that our son has excess energy and he needs to run it off, if he's not able to do that his behavior just goes downhill faster. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt... thanks in great part to our amazing preschool weve come to know that taking things away from him and forcing him to try to sit still or shaming him dont usually work well. Getting down on his level and helping him empathize, and then helping him redirect his energy if he is still having a hard time or being defiant, does work. * He also, since he was a newborn, has struggled with chronic constipation. He is under care of his pediatrician, a naturopath, and Stanford Childrens for this organic constipation, present from birth (starting at just days old, breastfed only). They still have not been able to ascertain the cause. We have a letter from from the Dr. stating that he needs to have unrestricted access to the bathroom, that he should never be instructed to not use the bathroom etc, so hopefully that should help. So Im wondering, has anybody else had any experience with either LeConte or King when there is a medical issue such as this? Do either of them use a reward system for helping reinforce potty use? Don't need advice about constipation, thanks, weve tried it all including diet/nutrition ;) Just wondering how the schools handle this or similar issues. Thanks!
Jun 18, 2018Tech/screentime in TK programs
–Nov 29, 2017Hi wise parents, we are exploring TK options for our kid. We've become aware that our neighborhood school has a set of ipads in the TK classroom, and uses them routinely for instruction (for math, for example). We've been careful to limit screentime for our child thus far, and are not thrilled to know that the kids will be on screens starting in TK if we enroll at our neighborhood school. Is this typical? Does your TK or K classroom routinely encourage/require use of computers or tablets? Do we have to start looking into private schools if we don't want our kid learning via screens starting in TK or K (and are private schools any better)? (For what it's worth, we're not generally anti-tech--we just don't think learning from computers/tablets is necessary or preferable at such a young age!)
Nov 29, 2017TK question for future
–Nov 9, 2017Hi There- jumping the gun a bit, what can l say! My son was born sept 30 2014, just turned 3. Does anyone know if the TK program will still exist in 2 years? If it does not exist, do children do another year of preschool since they will not be old enough for kindergarten? We are zoned for Mira Visat school, but from what I can see they do not have a TK program. How have other children done transitioning from preschool or daycare, the to a different TK school, then a year later changing to a different assigned school for kindergarten? Seems like a lot of change for a little kid!
Nov 9, 2017TK enrollment for August 30 birthday?
–Sep 14, 2017Has anyone heard of a Walnut Creek/ MDUSD elementary that allows kids to enroll in TK if they are born before Sept 2? My son will turn 5 on August 30, 2018 and is therefore technically supposed to enroll in kindergarten next year. One of his pre-school teachers told me that if an elementary school has extra space in their TK classes, they will often allow kids with August and July birthdays enroll. Has anyone heard of this happening? And if so, which schools? I am on the fence as to whether he will be ready for kindergarten next year and was thinking this could be a good middle of the road option. Thanks in advance for any thoughts or information!
Sep 14, 2017Transitional Kindergarten vs Kindergarten for advanced 4YO
–May 23, 2017Hello,
My daughter will be 5 yrs old at the end of October. She is required to enter TK (transitional kindergarten) because she will not meet the age requirement at the time school starts in August.
I do not want her to go to TK because she is more advanced academically and is probably doing some Grade 1 work. As far as socially, she is currently in a multi age class and her social skills is not more different then her TK and K peers.
I have spoken to the principal but there is a numbers game and filling vacancies in the schools. She claims we can have a meeting to access her for K once she turns 5 but I am sure that the class will be full and no space available to move her. Also, is there any possibility of moving her from TK to 1st grade?
Any suggestions? Thoughts?
Thank you
May 23, 2017Berkeley Unified Transitional Kindergarton Waiver
–Dec 13, 2016Our daughter misses the 2017 kindergarten birthday cut-off by 35 days. She will already have completed 3 years of pre-school by next fall and we are trying to petition BUSD for a waiver from mandatory T-K. She is already ahead of age in terms of reading, writing, math, and maturity (thanks to older sisters). We are seeking advice from parents who have tried successfully/unsuccessfully to petition BUSD? Otherwise, do people have other options to have our daughter start kindergarten early?
Dec 13, 2016Bridge-K Programs in El Cerrito area
–Dec 4, 2016Hello, we have a 4 year old boy with a summer birthday, who was born over 3 months premature, so we are strongly considering delaying K for one more year. He is good at sitting, paying attention, listening to directions etc. but is a little bit delayed in terms of fine motor skills. We live in El Cerrito and we are looking into private TK programs since I am not sure he will be eligible for public WCCUSD TK, even though he was supposed to be born in November. Nomura's Bridge K program is on the short list, and I would love to hear reviews from other parents who have enrolled their child in that Bridge K class. Any other recommendations for Bridge K programs convenient to El Cerrito?
Also, have any of you enrolled your child in kindergarten with the expectation that he would do 2 years instead of 1? That has been brought up to us as an option but I wonder if that is going to be difficult for our kid, making friends and then having them move on while he repeats. I would love to hear from other parents who have been in this situation. Thanks so much!
Dec 4, 2016Berkeley TK or one more year of preschool?
–Aug 10, 2016Hi Parents! We are trying to decide whether to send our son to TK at Malcolm X or continue in his current preschool for one more year and I'd love to hear from current or recent TK families.
Thank you so much! These decisions are hard I really appreciate your thoughts!
Fall Birthday Mama
Aug 10, 2016
Archived Q&A and Reviews
Future plans for California transitional kindergarten
June 2014
Re: Transitional kindergarten at Sequoia in Oakland?
No feedback on the Sequoia program specifically--we are looking at TK for 2016 so curious to hear!--but more broadly, keep an eye on what's happening at the state level. Senate Bill 837 was recently passed by the State Senate. This bill eliminates the current TK program and reintroduces it as PreK for all low-income four-year-olds. Beginning in 2015, children born in the Sept-Dec window (current TK group) who are not low-income would no longer be eligible. (The original bill was for PreK for all four-year-olds, but to cut costs they limited it to low-income, as defined by free and reduced lunch eligibility.) I have very mixed thoughts on this for many reasons, not the least of them that recent studies of Head Start have shown far greater benefits for low-income children when the programs are mixed income. The bill still needs to make it to the governor, but it's definitely worth watching, as it may mean that TK/PreK is no longer an option for your family. Another prospective TK mama
Transitional K for Dec 2 birthday girl?
May 2014
Recently talk about TK (Transitional Kindergarten) has come up among friends and several assured us that we were in a good spot because of instead of having to pay for an additional year of preschool, our child will be able to go to TK since she's a winter baby!
Even though we have a few more years to really think about this before she'll be going to one, I decided to look up more information about TK since so much of it is new to me. Turns out she's born the day AFTER the cutoff date (but I was in labor before then, I swear! Does that count?!) which is December 2.
Any thoughts or advice on what our options are? Is there really a super duper strict cutoff date? Do we not stand a chance? Do we fudge the birth cert? Is there any movement or reality on TK for all (4 year olds) by the time she hits that age (in a few years)?? decembermama
The cutoff was changed to September 2 at every Public School I am aware of. It used to be Dec. 2 but not anymore. Ellen
We also have a TK-eligible kid so I've followed this with interest. First--yes, keep an eye on the state budget negotiations this year and next. TK for all four-year-olds is a hot topic and while it's not in the currently proposed budget, it's the top issue identified by the Democrats this year going into budget negotiations. So if you're a few years out, it could be a different ball game by then. As far as the cutoff, how strict it is varies by district, but many will accept children who just miss the cutoff (in either direction) if there are spots remaining once all of the Sept/Oct/Nov children have been placed. So I definitely wouldn't give up! Another prospective TK mama
You need to call your school district and talk to the program manager in its preschool division to ask what your district's approach is. My understanding is that currently each district has flexibility to extend the TK window, at least as far as the state is concerned. The May revise of the proposed 2014-15 state budget does not have any changes (or expansion) of TK programs, but you can keep an eye on it as it progresses to see if the Legislature's Democrats are successful in including universal pre-K (Gov Brown has rejected their proposal thus far). In the WCCUSD, I had many conversations with the preschool program manager about getting my son in TK (his bday falls just before the start date, so he was eligible for kindergarten), and they kept an interest list for kids outside the range. However, there's not much point in having those discussions more than the fall prior to when you want your child to start, because it does change year to year.
At the present time, the only children who are admitted to TK's are those who would have been able to attend kindergarten, if it had not been for the change in the cut-off for beginning kindergarten (so, kids born in September, October, November). Previously, those kids would have started kindergarten when they were not quite 5, but now they have to wait until the following year. Your child, born December 3, would not have been able to go to kindergarten previously either. So, currently, they would not qualify for TK. There is some movement toward the idea of TK for all-- I think that would be awesome! But I'm not sure that it's going to happen. It's going to be incredibly expensive and though the state isn't in quite the dire financial straits it was a few years ago, we're not exactly rolling in the money either. So, although it would be great, I wouldn't really plan on it!
You're kidding about fudging the birth certificate, right? You wouldn't start your daughter's official schooling with a big, fat lie, would you? Sometimes you just get the shorter end of the stick. Not everyone can have the perfect birthday (which now is probably sometime in October--you get to be one of the oldest in your class and get free TK for a year). Not everyone can be good at math and a super athlete and highly attractive, either. You get what you get (and you don't get upset). You might find yourself in a wonderful preschool situation that you don't want to trade in for free TK anyway. Don't start worrying about TK before your baby or toddler has even started preschool! Mom of 3, with very different birthdays
We are going to be staying with our preschool next year for a few reasons. One is that our preschool is Spanish immersion and the public school we're sending our kid to is primarily English for TK and starts Spanish immersion with K. Also, our 5 year old did a year of TK (instead of K which he was eligible for) and he really struggled. The academic work, level of structure and the large elementary school environment is a lot. If we can put that off a year, we'd like to. We also loved our preschool teachers and were less impressed with the TK teacher. She wasn't a good fit for our other kid and probably wouldn't be again. We are able to afford another year of part-time preschool tuition so we're going to go ahead and stay put.
I work in the district. TK used to function as “kindergarten light” because the kids were nearly kindergarten age and just didn’t make the cut-off. Now that it is essentially just preschool, there is no advantage to TK over preschool, especially if your child is thriving in their current preschool. There is no admission advantage in BUSD and no academic advantage. It simply gets them into a large institutional setting a year earlier. I would only advise TK for specific situations like: an older sibling already attends the elementary school and you want one drop-off, all of your child’s preschool friends are graduating to kindergarten anyway, or your child is very mature and wants a more challenging environment.
The biggest pro is the ~ $25k that you get to keep instead of spending it on preschool! Our younger son is in TK and we are so happy with it. We LOVED his preschool so much and it is sad to leave, but he has transitioned well to TK and really loves it. It is very much another year of preschool - lots of play (pretty much all day long), a very gentle and loving teacher, a bunch of recess time. I'd say the big downside is that afterschool is not awesome. He goes to on-site care and it's fine, but definitely not as good as the school day just in terms of the level of attention, types of activities, etc. But on the whole, we have no regrets about choosing TK!
My son is in his second year at Berkeley Hills Nursery School (BHNS). He was not eligible for TK this year (mid-April birthday), but if he had been, I would have kept him at BHNS. My second son will start preschool next Fall (August 2024) and his birthday puts him in the "traditional TK" age (late-October). We are strongly leaning towards 3 years at BHNS rather than 2 years of preschool and 1 year of TK (which would be at Kensington Hilltop).
Our reasoning is mostly along the lines of the other responders - less structure, more play, and a much lower student-to-teacher ratio. I would like both of my boys to have as much of the special, sweet, and carefree play before they enter the more-structured public elementary environment. Also, I believe TK is a shorter day than preschool, so TK would give us less hours of childcare. Lastly, since we are going to public elementary, I see this year of preschool as a touch of private school.