Socially Isolated Young Adults

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  • Thanks for recommendations for a good coach for a late 20's young woman who's needing help to move forward.  She's very wonderful, kind and funny but also an introvert and can be happy with her projects, books, and work.   Because of COVID she's been working remotely from home, the apartment in our house because rent is so outrageous, isolating her from meeting more people.  The idea was for a few years to save money but she's needing more initiative and motivation to move forward, building relationships and community.  She doesn't drink and has tried other meetups over coffee, volunteer work and a few groups, etc but hasn't connected in any lasting way.  Suggestions are welcome but think she also needs a coach or another good professional who will help her through these big, for her, steps to feel more comfortable with building relationships and establishing a more independent life.   Thanks much....

    I would definitely ask first, is she unhappy with the situation? Is she ready for change and just unable to find the motivation/inner confidence to change? I often feel I put on my extroverted lenses when I see others in this type of situation and sometimes they are just perfectly happy with the way things are. OR, wanting to change but not quite ready. That said, I absolutely agree with you that sometimes a good life coach or even therapist can help someone sort through why they are building their lives in a certain way and even avoiding certain things. I wish I had a good name for someone like this - I can think of someone, but she would be remote to the bay area - and not sure if she's accepting clients. Let me know if you haven't found anyone!

  • Where does a young adult go to find and develop friends?  I'm in my early 20's, working remote, most of my HS friends are living elsewhere. I went to college during the pandemic, so not a lot of friendships developed then.  My social group has shrunk to no one near by and all online, not much fun for going out on the weekends.   Thanks for any advice. (Parent of adult child posting this with permission).

    Although I am older than you I just moved to a new country where I knew no one. I made friends slowly through the following activities:

    local gym ( if you take a class try to meet one person and say hello after each class)

    tennis ( or any sport of interest)

    volunteering

    social clubs ( they often have activities like book groups, hiking groups, walking groups, local art tours etc)

    also- I am not sure where you live but I heard there is a cool pub on solano avenue ( the pub, near Safeway) where everyone is new to meeting new people. It’s not a big drunken hang out spot but rather a place where interesting people go to chat. All ages mingle and it seems really cool from the few times I have been there. 
     

    good luck! 

    Hi - I have a niece (in her 20s) who moved here knowing no one for a job that unfortunately has stayed mostly remote. It has been a very isolating year, as she too has found it hard to meet people. Most people she has met already have established social networks and she’s on the introverted side, so has found it hard to break into existing friend groups. She’s looking for friends who are interested in going to see live music, arty stuff, chatting at coffee shops, hiking, community service, etc. If this is appealing to your daughter, have her reach out to me and I’ll connect her to my niece. Also my niece suggests finding a shared housing situation with lots of roommates. She has that now and it’s much better than her previous housing with just one couple. Good luck! 

    If they are at all open to a sport.. ultimate frisbee is really social and a great way to meet people.  The Bay Area Disc Association https://bayareadisc.org/ has clinics to learn the game.  Another idea - if they like dogs - some dog parks can be really social and a good place to meet people.  Even if they can't have one of their own, no doubt there is a neighbor dog nearby who would love (and the owner would love) to be taken out.

    Welcome to BPN! Yes finding people you enjoying being locally with is important. Have you tried Meetup? Groups cover a wide range of interests and and some specific age groups. I join free hiking groups. Hikers tend to be a friendly lot and the hike provides a natural opportunity to casually meeting many different people. Different groups have different vibes. Weekend and after work hour groups have younger people. Keep trying out groups and have fun!

    Hobbies? Find an in-person class or group that gets together to do something you like? Sports, art, music, ?? Try something totally new?

    there’s a social aspect to a lot of hobbies!

    I thought this was such a great post - both that the adult child had shared with their parent their desire to make more friendship connections, and is open to hearing ideas from others on how to grow connections and make local friends. I'm the parent of a young adult, so have perspectives from both sides. I reflected on my adult friendships and realized that I met most of my closest friends at work. Working remotely is tough for building out of work relationships with coworkers, but there are also networking groups that host in person events. Does the OPs career have any networking groups they can join? 

    Most recently, because of COVID, my newest friendship developed from online groups centered around different things that interested me. There are groups for everything online! While we don't live in the same area, it's been really fun to travel to see this new group of friends, and host them when they come to CA.

    For local friends for 20 somethings, my son found a wonderful group of friends through his hobby. He started going to local events and connected with people there who shared his passion and interests. There is so much to access in the Bay Area - hiking groups, craft groups, game board groups, intramural sports teams, volunteer causes, and so much more! 

    The post didn't share a gender, but for women, there's an active Facebook group connecting women looking to build connections and friendships and get together in person to do fun things - https://www.facebook.com/groups/bayareaadventuregals/?mibextid=oMANbw.&…;

    I also have a wonderful friend who was a new mom in a similar situation coming out of the pandemic, feeling isolated coming out of COVID. She was looking to connect with other new moms and made little "business" cards that she would pass out at the park or library that said something like, I'm a new mom looking to make other mom friends and then linked to her social media. It was a silly little way to break the ice and start conversations with people she met casually at the playground.

    I enjoyed reading the responses and find this thread interesting.  We all need friends and it is difficult to make connections later in life. Here's a suggestion: The New Parkway theater in Oakland has community events:  www.thenewparkway.com   They host Speed Meeting Mondays (not dating, but meeting new people), also Bingo, Dungeons & Dragons, Drink & Draw (but you don't need to drink alcohol), Trivia night, Karoke, Super Smash Bros,  They serve a variety of foods and beverages, but there is no entry fee for the community nights.  They show a combo of arty/alternateive/classic films AND new releases.  When I saw films at The New Parkway, I found the staff are friendly and inclusive of all types of people. I confess that I have not tried the social events only recently learned of them.  However, I think it is a great idea that should be supported.

    Also, I have heard good things about Victory Point Cafe.

    My dragon boat team welcomes new members all the time, and the team members and meetup participants range in age from 18 - 70+ so you have the opportunity to meet lots of different folks and try a new sport. The first three practices are free and anyone can try it even if you have no experience -- we'll provide instruction! We host meetup participants on Sundays and you can sign up at https://www.meetup.com/kpdragons/ 

  • I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a therapist that fulfills the following criteria:  -- Located in Albany, Kensington, El Cerrito, Berkeley, or possibly Rockridge or Piedmont. -- Offering in-person sessions. -- Experienced in helping intelligent, non-substance-abusing, joyless young adults find purpose, a little optimism, and the best way forward in life. -- Not too "alternative" or emotionally touchy-feeling in approach; my child is a cynic. -- Helpful with severe social anxiety but willing to take things slowly (not just pure, efficient cognitive behavioral therapy). My 20-year-old was socially anxious and withdrawn before the pandemic, got worse during quarantine, and now could really use a jump-start toward future happiness. I'm thinking maybe something in between therapy and life-coaching -- but maybe that's just what therapy is? All suggestions appreciated!

    Bri Byrne: Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist #77517

    She is in Lafayette, and she is excellent and has been working with my teen kid for this issue too. She has helped my teen get through depression without medication. It takes some time, but she offers very compassionate and intelligent guidance and advice. She is also very open to speaking with the parents about progress and even some guidance at home but will not do family therapy so that the teen client keeps the trust that she is exclusively there for them. I really credit her for helping my teen to see herself and her place in this world from a positive perspective. 

    My teenager is seeing Ananda Patterson, MA, psychological associate, in Albany, and really likes her. She is under supervision of Dr. Ellen Balis and working toward her PhD. She was highly recommended by my kid’s previous therapist (who is fantastic), Dr. Adam Moss. (He didn’t have any after school hours available, so my kid wanted to see someone else). It’s been a good fit for my trans kid as Ananda is particularly in tune with LGBTQ+ adolescents.

    We really like Dr Frank Davis in Berkeley. He help our teen/ young son and really support our family. You always have to try because it is difficult to find the right fit, but Dr Davis is young, experience and not your typical doctor, that really help my son to connect with him. 

    Good luck!

  • My 25 yr old daughter lives in LA.  She struggled with ADD, anxiety and depression, and is on medication.  She graduated college 3 yrs ago and has worked for the last 3 years.  She happens to be in between jobs right now but her main challenge is a lack of self esteem and self confidence, the ability to network and advocate for herself.  She has 2 good friends in LA that she sees periodically and even though she went to college in LA, she does not know how to socialize beyond these 2 friends (who both live with their parents).  She definitely does not know how to make new friends and is very insecure and afraid to speak up.  She has seen therapists off and on.  I convinced her to start seeing a therapist again recently and with much encouragement, she agreed but I am not seeing much change.  She claims she is not depressed but it is sad to see her alone most weekends because I know she loves company.  I don't know if there are programs out there that could help someone like her.  So challenging when they are adults and you can't help but so badly want to.  

    Maybe she could go out to low-key events  such as book readings, watercolor classes, or adult language classes.  Even one-on-one classes such as piano lessons might help her with self-confidence.  Maybe eventually something repeating like a yoga class or monthly book club (some libraries host them).  Something more incremental, enjoyable, and less goal oriented.  Best to her. 

    My niece also 25 with some depression, anxiety, etc. is new to the Bay Area (sorry, not LA) and struggling to make friends. Some things that have helped: 1) She moved into a shared house with some really nice housemates. They don't hang out outside of the house (housemates all have their own friend groups), but they do some things together at home (dinners, movies, etc.) and just having other people in the house makes it a lot less lonely. 2) She's starting to join groups -- volunteering, book club, etc. What is key is repeated interactions in order to become more than just acquaintances. (It always takes her longer to make friends.) 3) She and I (the only person she knows in town) always plan one thing each weekend -- a walk, watch a movie, have a meal or cup of coffee, browse a bookstore. It's not what she really wants, which is to hang out with good friends, but it gives her something to look forward to and breaks up her a weekend a bit. Maybe your daughter can do that with the two friends she has. Make it mostly casual activities so her friends don't feel too leaned on. 4) Get a casual job where there is interaction with co-workers and no expected long-term commitment. My niece did that awhile back before she had a full-time job and it gave her something to do on weekends; again not what she wanted, but it was actually pretty enjoyable and she liked her co-workers. (Every young person I know who has worked at a Trader Joe's have found the other employees were super friendly.). Good luck to your daughter! Hang in there, Mama.

  •  I’m looking for peer to peer support and friendship for my trans non binary lesbian child who is 18 (almost 19) years old. They are going to community college in the east bay this year and are finding it hard to find peers and friends (they were @ college in another state last year). They plan on transferring to UC Santa Cruz next fall. Wondering if there is peer to peer support or other resources for their age group out there so they can socialize. They have a significant other…they are just looking for friendship.  

    In person try The Pacific Center and/ or the Oakland LGBTQ Center  . Online try Gender Spectrum. 
    you're an awesome parent!

    We found a  program for both our daughters, (ages 13 and 18 years old.). Quetzal and Emily are both skilled and attentive group leaders who offer support to college age young women as well. I know many young women "graduate" from their group when they are done high school and continue on with their young adult offerings. It's all about friendship and a well facilitated social space for them to learn and grow in. Their website online gives more information.  Good luck with your search and to your teen!

    https://www.loveyournature.com/young-womens-online-group.html

  • I'm looking for creative ideas to share with neurodiverse young adults who lack extensive social networks, to find community.

    Are there groups, associations that host social events locally?

    It's tough enough for neurotypicals to feel a sense of belonging in this area these days.

    TY

    Thank you for asking this. I was considering posting a similar question. I am also looking for some sort of social group/support group for an 18-year old who was recently diagnosed as 2e. I found some but they are for older adults or teens still in high school. She has graduated from high school but is not ready to take on college just yet and trying to figure out next steps. I would love to hear if you discover any resources or opportunities.

    If you find a group, I think my daughter would be interested, even with one friend.

    In case you don't find social networks that fill the need, might I suggest thinking about their strengths and activities they enjoy, and then figure out how to apply that to in-person volunteer work?  I know that in-person volunteer opportunities are harder to find right now, but it doesn't have to be with a formal organization.  A young adult to accompany an older person on walks, for example, could make that exercise safer and more enjoyable and benefit both.  And there are always creative ways to use one's own skills to help others, with opportunities for building community in the process.  Feeling needed as a volunteer or helping neighbors gives me a great sense of belonging. 

    I've really appreciated the postings on this topic regarding finding social opportunities for young adults who identify as neurodivergent.

    My realization through covid is that anything that will ease our sense of isolation will serve to open up our world again and prevent downstream ill-effects from it.

    I propose that another option for our young adults is to empower them to build community-perhaps starting with meeting just a few peers @ a time casually (vs joining special organizations which in our child's case will bring up more anxiety).

    So, the more organically get-togethers happen, the better. The increased perception of safety in a small, more manageable group, will avail them toward connection.  There's no substitute I've seen for getting together with other like-minded peers, whether for coffee, walking in the serenity of nature or whatever interests they may have. It's an uplifting experience & it may be a huge step for some, but it will be an empowered step forward into possibilities. 

    If anyone is interested, pls contact me, let's explore this further. 

    DLH

    "The world is full of lonely people afraid to make the 1st move."

    The Green Book

  • Our young adult ND kids (23,24) lament that it's been really difficult to connect with other peers in this pandemic. The most popular dating apps have not yielded meaningful connections with peers who value mutual acceptance of differences and building a friendship base before romantic involvement.

    Safety has been a concern as well because our kids tend towards naive and so may miss the more subtle "red flags" from others.

    Are there are apps geared towards the needs of the neurodiverse community? I've heard of Hiki but don't know anyone who has used it locally and it's very new.

    Until the usual natural avenues for making social connections open up again, how young adults are meeting nowadays.

    Thank you

    As a parent of an ND teen, I was glad to see your post. My son attended a high school for ND students for a while and it was wonderful to see him make friends with other ND teens. I have been trying to figure out a way to get him connected with other ND teens now that he attends public high school and everything has been a non-starter. The school and the parent group are telling me to form an affinity group but how do you do that when the student is revealing confidential health information just by joining? I don't want to give up on this, though. Our kids will live fuller and happier lives if they can connect with other ND people to form social relationships and feel understood. 

    My neurodiverse 16yo has maintained contact with peers through his interests in Magic the Gathering and D&D. In addition to playing the games, there are servers (like old fashioned message boards) to facilitate communication between folks with similar interests. 
    your kids might not have those interests but maybe they will find friends throughfollowing their areas of interest...

    My son has internalized the extremely important need to NOT share personal info on the message boards unless it’s someone he has met or someone a friend has met in person, so I can breathe easy.