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- UC Merced vs. Fresno State University for pre-med
- UC Riverside or UC Merced?
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UC Merced vs. Fresno State University for pre-med
April 2016
my son got acceptance from UC Merced and Fresno state university. which one is a better choice if he wants to study premed. Also tuition is an issue.
You asked two questions about choosing between U.C. Merced and Fresno State. Fresno State is definitely less expensive than U.C. Merced. (All CSUs are less expensive than the UCs for undergraduates.) However, U.C. Merced is a more academic school, especially for Pre-Med. The UC campuses are intended for the top 12.5% of students; the CSU campuses are intended for the next 33%. Merced has a strong focus on the sciences and recently built an additional science building with sparkling brand-new labs. Fresno State has about 20,000 students; U.C. Merced has about 6,000 students. My son (Biological Sciences major) has had a variety of small classes during his four years at Merced -- the advantage of a smaller school. He is graduating in about a month and had no problem getting the classes he needed every semester. One more issue: UC has plans to open a medical school at U.C. Merced. I'm not sure what the timeframe is for this, but maybe your son will be able to complete a Bachelor's degree at Merced and stay for medical school. So, in my opinion, U.C. Merced is a better choice unless money is the biggest factor, in which case Fresno State would save you money. Good luck to your family with this big decision!
- U.C. Merced parent
I wouldn't agree with the statement that ''UC campuses are intended for the top 12.5% of students; the CSU campuses are intended for the next 33.'' UC Merced has a 65% acceptance rate and Fresno has a 58%. SDSU and Cal Poly have a 32% - 35% acceptance rate with higher GPAs and SAT scores. Before the end of spring session, I would have your son tour both schools and premed departments (don't go during finals). I would ask for the percentage of students that get into medical school. Fresno State and UC Merced have a very different college feel to them and are in very different types of areas. UCM is known for being a more of a commuter school vs Fresno State.
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UC Riverside or UC Merced?
March 2012
My child was offered acceptance at UC Merced and UC Riverside, any pros or cos for either schools. Major is undecided but interests are computer science / business. College Bound
UC Merced and UC Riverside are very different! Have you read the material on the UC website about the majors and programs offered at each campus? I believe Merced has fewer choices of majors. Has your child visited each campus--that would be essential because the atmosphere at each is quite different. Given that Merced is the youngest UC campus, it may not have as strong a reputation as Riverside. But the key question is--which does your child prefer? The child's preference and the availability of majors or courses should be the key deciding factors. Anonymous
My son LOVES UC Riverside and wouldn't hesitate to tell you so. The quality of instruction, the feeling that everyone belongs to a community, the friendliness all are important to him. k.
Experience with UC Merced?
April 2009
Does anyone have personal experience with UC Merced? My daughter received an acceptance letter from them, although she hadn't applied there. She was rejected by all the other UC's, so is seriously considering it. We're wondering specifically if it feels isolating, and if it will feel very different from the more diverse community she is used to in the Bay Area. anon
Here is response from my son who is going to UC Merced currently: Currently a sophomore at UC Merced. I was also rejected from all the UCs and chose UC Merced over San Francisco State. The size of classes makes it feel like a small private school at a UC price. Most professors are well educated from respectable universities. There is some diversity on campus (majority of students are from Bay Area, Sacramento, and Los Angeles). The campus itself is about 4-5 miles from the city of Merced. There is a shuttle that goes between campus and town. The city of Merced is a very conservative place. It is missing the diversity that we are used to (and love) in the Bay Area. There is also no Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, or anything resembling Berkeley Bowl or Monterey Market. Merced feels like it's stuck in the 90s. I would not highly recommend UC Merced if your daughter is looking for a big city school like UCLA or UC Berkeley. Instead, her best bet would be to attend community college for two years and then transfer to a UC. Hope that helps, and best of luck. Anon
My son (Berkeley High Graduate) is now a 3rd year student and has thrived well. The Campus itself is isolated, it is about 10-15 minutes away from downtown Merced via car, but the student body population is very diverse. Many of my son's friends are from San Jose, San Francisco, Sacramento, Alameda, Berkeley as well as Los Angeles and San Diego. Staff is also a diverse bunch!
He's been an RA for two years now. He just learned that he's been accepted to be a SR RA for the 09/10 school year. I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any of your daughter's questions regarding the school. E-mail me and I can send you his e-mail. js
I can’t speak to UCM other than I’ve heard similar sentiments about it. For what it’s worth, I wanted to give my two cents about your son’s scenario. If he’s not all that excited/inspired by the school, maybe he should reconsider his other options. Just because it’s a UC, doesn’t mean it’s any better than other schools he was accepted to. Also, if he thinks he might want to transfer, he’s much more likely to do that successfully from a community college — and you’ll save a lot of money. Of course, he could grow to love all that UCM has to offer so maybe it’s worth another visit and make sure to talk to current students about their life there. Best wishes to your son!
Your child could think about how much of a priority the off-campus art and music scene is to him. If such things are high (and there's nothing wrong with that) then perhaps he won't be happy there no matter what the program or people are like. If they are relatively lower on the list then the factors that others have already written about come more into play. Prioritizing one's own needs can be hard but it's a big part of growing up.
My neurodiverse son attended UC Merced as a freshman and sophomore. Having graduated with straight "A's" from Albany High School, he had a lot of options including several Ivy League schools but he chose to go here. Our family moved to Merced and from the very beginning absolutely loved it. Real small-town feel, so different from the congestion and craziness of Berkeley and San Francisco.. You could go into town on any given day and always see someone you knew who would come over to chat. (try chat in San Francisco). It was an incredibly welcoming and inclusive place and we all made lifelong friends there too . We loved how the university was located out in the country - so serene and beautiful. None of Berkeley or San Francisco's parking problems! Loved the wildlife, the birds, the cows (not so much the snake we saw on the campus grounds). The professors were really interested in the students and spent a lot of office hours with them and showed great concern --- unlike UC Berkeley (my alma mater) where it was always clear that they could have cared less. When I took classes at Boalt Hall (the former name of the law school) the situation was the same -- total indifference to students and a very cold and sterile atmosphere in my opinion. I hated it there. As for there not being much to do in Merced, my son always thought it was what you decided to make it. He was active in the community theatre downtown and several campus clubs (there are hundreds of them there) and we took a lot of little day trips to surrounding cities. We had a religious community that we enjoyed being a part of every week. We loved the farmers' markets and the small downtown. The Gallo Center for the Performing Arts is particularly good in Modesto and lots to do there and in Turlock (another university there) as well. Plenty of parks in Merced and we loved the lake on the campus. Both of us made so many friends, easier to do than in the pretentious Bay Area where my son was born and I spent over 30 years. People in Merced were really kind and down-to-earth and we loved being able to speak Spanish all the time too because there was a large Hispanic community there. Our biggest issue was the heat in the summer - we never did well with that. My son eventually transferred to UC Berkeley for his junior and senior years for non-academic reasons but really missed the warm and intimate feeling of the UC Merced campus and how much his professors cared about his academic progress and his personal development. Admittedly UC Berkeley has the greater prestige but it was also a place where my son faced plenty of discrimination and on numerous occasions walked into buildings (including the law school) where swastikas were painted on the wall -- all of which he duly reported right away to campus police. Students were cut-throat competitive and plenty of them committing plagiarism in their papers (I know, three of my friends are professors there). Hope this helps, my boy had a terrific experience where he was always treated with love and respect.
It’s true UC Merced is isolated and quiet and so wouldn’t be the first choice for a kid who wants an action-packed campus life. Lots of more introverted kids love it for that reason though.
But it’s still a UC and beats out any CSU (except for Cal Poly SLO—if your kid got in there absolutely do that, especially for engineering majors). Also, most aerospace engineer majors go on to graduate school and any UC undergrad degree will make that easier than a CSU undergrad degree (except for SLO.)
A lot of kids have to choose between preferred campus vibe and preferred career options. It sounds like that’s what your kid might need to think about.
If he has other options that are affordable and he likes better then you have your answer. One thing I would say about the 'nothing to do' is it depends on your kids. Our student is at a small college with not a lot around and spends more of their time with friends and doing things via an activity they joined on campus - it's not like they really care what is close by to them in town. But your kid might be different, and someone who likes to see what is out there for fun. I would also recommend you post to the parents board on College Confidential if you haven't already - there aren't a ton of UCM parents there but there are definitely some who can give you a good idea. Agree with the other poster who said grad school might be the end goal and if so a UC education will be good to have under his belt. Whatever happens, congratulations to you all and remind him it's not the where you go but who you are that makes all the difference! Good luck!