Affordable Orthodontist

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  • Greetings BPN parents,

    I'm looking for an affordable orthodontist for my teenage daughter, do you have anyone to recommend in Berkeley/El Cerrito? As we are with Aetna, we're also exploring the in-network options. Some of the reviews (not to say the majority) for in-network dentists were simply too awful to even call the office but I eventually found Bright Now Dental & Orthodontics, on San Pablo in El Cerrito, Dr Jeff DINGS but latest reviews date 2014! Thank you for your input about affordable orthodontist or if you've ever worked with  Bright Now Dental in El Cerrito!

    We love Dr. Lai on San Pablo, who is in network for Delta - not sure about Aetna. We saved a lot by going in network, and it does seem like a lot of Orthodontists and moving out of networks. Dr. Lai has been great for our two kids - one in invisalign and on in traditional braces.

    We used Orthoworks in Hercules. We made Saturday morning appointments so there was no traffic and they have plentiful, free parking. Our experience was very good, the staff and  orthodontist, a woman, were friendly and qualified.  The cost was the same with or without insurance; we had the first round with insurance that covered about 25-30%, and the second round was without insurance and they gave us a discount. We paid 50% down payment and then reasonable monthly payments. My daughter still had two years of check-ins after our payments were complete. It was overall a good experience and my daughter's teeth look fantastic.

  • Orthodontia Phase Two?

    Mar 17, 2021

    My daughter had Phase One orthodontic treatment done two years ago. At the time, we were told that she may or may not need Phase Two, and if she does it will be shorter and easier because of the work done in phase one. 
    Today we were informed that not only does she need Phase Two, but it will take 18 months and the cost will be $7300 + the $400 for the updated study models and xrays. 
    Having already paid $5000 for phase one, I am a bit shocked. I didn’t expect the second phase to be so much more expensive than the first. The grand total for both phases comes out to almost 13,000 which seems absolutely unreasonable. 
    Those of you whose children recently underwent two-phase treatment, what was the cost like for you?

    Our orthodontist said the same thing, that we might not need a phase 2.  But of course now they are saying my child will need a phase 2 which we all know is super expensive. 

    However, we brought my child to my dentist, who is much more conservative and holistically minded, and she said that they did not need another set of braces. She said if we did a phase 2, it would be purely cosmetic, and totally unnecessary.  I have been going to her for over 10 years and trust her and appreciate her honesty.  If you wanted to go to her to get a second opinion, her name is Laura Lawson and is on Solano Ave.

    Yes, we got the same pep talk with our first  orthodontist. Our phase 1 for our oldest kid was over $6000 and was botched because they made a retainer when a tooth had not grown in all the way and then refused to make another when she could no longer wear it.  Needless to say, we are not returning.

    But,  an advantage of having two phases is being able to spare the kid from having to lose permanent teeth. Two phases allow for palate expansion, which for one of my kids will ultimately help allow him to breathe better. Despite losing his tonsils and adenoids, he is still snoring and lagging in his growth. The second orthodontist for kid 2  said very clearly “99% chance of phase 2, and it will be more expensive than phase 1”.

    My husband had braces, but only one phase that lasted from age 12-20!  Luckily, there are many more options these days, that allow for treatment to be staggered,  broken into stages, which end up costing more, but ultimately will protect teeth and gums and correct much more than just the cosmetics.

    Yes, sticker shock, but there are reasons and advantages for  sucking it up and doing it. Best of luck!

  • Low cost orthodontist

    Mar 9, 2021

    My 16 year old daughter desperately needs braces. However, it seems only wealthy kids have access? She has medi cal which will not cover. I can pay monthly but can’t afford a huge down payment, etc. help?  Is there someone reputable that offers low cost? She is very shy, has anxiety which Covid has made worse.

    Hi! I'd try calling Dr. Rebong and Agazzi at http://www.oakland-orthodontics.com to see if they can help, or if they can help refer you to someone they know. They're doing my son's braces. My husband and I do have insurance, however, it doesn't cover a whole lot so our portion for the braces treatment plan was pretty substantial… and Dr. Agazzi and Dr. Rebong have both been really great, both in our son's treatment plan and their care, as well as in the financial aspect. They set us up with a really low down payment and an affordable monthly in-house instalments payment plan (interest-free, which is awesome! ). Hopefully some other parents on here will have some other ideas for other Orthodontists you can try reaching out to as well.

    My other thought is that you could try contacting Dr. Denise Bass Allen, Dr. Susanna Cheng, and Dr. Niekia Franklin, at Uptown Pediatric Dentistry ( https://www.denisebassallendds.com/ ). I know you are asking specifically about orthodontists and not about general pediatric dentists, however, Dr. Bass Allen's office came to mind immediately because she is our kids' dentist and as far as I know she does take Medi Cal, so she might have ideas about other orthodontists who may be able to help you. She and her entire office are also well known around the bay for how thoughtful and knowledgeable they are in working with kids with special needs. That includes anxiety and many other things/issues both physical and mental health. Our son for instance has a history of anxiety as well, and mild ADHD/Dyspraxia, and everyone at this office is just so wonderful and I really appreciate them.

    Our son also desperately needed these braces so I understand what you guys are going through. Keep at it and you'll find someone. It's totally worth it even though it's expensive and we're so glad we're sticking it out for our son. Good luck, you will find someone who can help you!

    I would recommend that you talk to Dr. Immi Song in Albany.  Even though we have insurance, she gave us a low cost option in addition to a higher cost option.  The office has enough volume that they may be more flexible about deposits as well.

    Check out Uniform Teeth. They have an office in San Francisco but have recently opened a few more I believe. They use aligners that get switched out every few weeks, like Invisalign, but way better. They are less than half the price I was quoted for Invisalign. The doctors are all UCSF trained young innovative orthodontists. They use state of the art imaging and technology. The treatment does not require monthly visits, they send you the aligners in the mail after you take a picture of your teeth using their app, everything is done through the app. You do have to go in sometimes but it is like once every 4 months. You can make payments through Affirm, an app based financing company. I paid like $200 per month interest free for a year I believe and I may have paid a few hundred down but I can't recall. This was my daughter's second round of orthodontia. She had regular braces in 2nd grade but her jaw grew, of course, so she needed a tune up to correct her bite. I can't recommend them enough, they are also just ridiculously nice people, and my daughter's teeth look beautiful.

  • Price of Braces for Teen?

    Jul 12, 2016

    Hello parents of kids who have had braces once all their adult teeth are in,

    I'm trying to get a sense if $7-8,000 is a typical East Bay rate for the usual course of top and bottom standard braces (about 1 1/2 years) when a teen has all their teeth in, including retainers after the braces.  It may be hard to compare if there are other corrections being done, but it would be helpful to get some comparison for this basic treatment.  We love our orthodontist, but this price was surprising to us.

    Thanks.

    We took our daughter to an orthodontist when she was 7/8 who recommended all kinds of expensive work.  I got a second opinion from a wonderful orthodontist in Oakland who recommended we wait until her adult teeth were in.  He said that often the younger children have to have additional work done when they are older.  I love this orthodontist and the kids seem to like him too.  His name is Straty Rhigellis. 2220 Mountain Blvd.  Oakland 94611.  510 482-0600

    I recently got my braces off, and had all my adult teeth. I bought DeltaDental's private insurance option, the cheapest California plan, and ended up paying $2500 for my braces(including retainers), plus $120 for the insurance. We went with Orthoworks in Hercules (but they have offices all over), and I was very pleased. They offered interest free financing, and we paid them monthly until the bill was paid. I had your basic brackets and wires, and now have an invisalign top retainer, and a classic bottom retainer. 

    For complicated reasons, our 16-year-old didn't have her braces installed until this past February.  On the recommendation of a friend, her work is being done at the UCSF Benioff Orthodontic Clinic on Parnassus Street in San Francisco.  Why?  Because you can get top-of-the-line treatment there for half the price of a private orthodontist. The work is done by young orthodontists who already have their degrees (they are all called "Dr."), but who must work as "interns" for two years before becoming credentialed.  

    Their work is always checked -- at each visit -- by a senior orthodontist, and so you you know that you are in good hands.  Our teen is being treated by Dr. Campbell, and we could not be happier with her, or with how her treatment is progressing at the six-month mark.

    FYI, once the work is underway, the appointments are (nearly) always on a Friday.  I choose 11:00 a.m., because that way our kid doesn't have to miss her 1st period class.  I pick her up at 9:30 a.m. and we get there in plenty of time to find free parking on one of the nearby residential streets.  (I could pick her up as late as 10:00, or even 10:15 a.m., as I've never had a problem with traffic.  However,  you never know what might happen on the bridge.)  She does homework or snoozes in the car while we wait for the appointment.  

    After the appointment -- which lasts from 20 to 40 minutes, depending on what needs to be done --  it's become a tradition to stop by the Jamba Juice on Irving Street for a smoothie -- a deserved reward! -- and then we drive back to Berkeley with almost no traffic at that hour.  

    So... don't let the "distance" put you off -- except for perhaps one initial appointment, you'll never going during rush hour traffic, and it's fun to have a regular opportunity to drive across beautiful San Francisco Bay in the middle of the day.

    Feel free to email me with any questions you may have.  I've taken a lot of photos so that you can get an idea of how wonderful the facilities are! 

    lmorland [at] gmail.com 

    My child just started braces for a similar length of time, though who knows if the details are the same. Berkeley Orthodontics is charging $5800. 

    That price seems a bit high. I had braces as an adult a few years ago and paid about $5000 after insurance which covered $1000. Treatment lasted 2 years and was uncomplicated. I went to Dr Abar in Pinole and was very happy with the service. They also offer interest free financing.

    I paid $8000 for my son's braces because he needed 2 phases and started treatment before he had all his adult teeth. His treatment lasted 5 years. 

    Hi there! We have 2 sons having orthodonture work. They have pretty extensive stuff needing to be done, and they are starting before all teeth are in, which mught be different than what you need. The idea is that because my sons have more teeth than there is room for in their mouth, instead of pulling the excess teeth, they expand the palate to accommodate them and then align them after that. My oldest son wore the expanding retainers 1 1/2 years, and then had braces 1 year. The cost for everything- $4,100 (we have insurance, but we submit the claims and it only pays for part of it, so $4,100 is the actual price.) This was a Phase 1 treatment. He will be re-evaluated to see if a Phase 2 needs to happen, but they are waiting to see what goes on when more adult teeth come in. I would bet that if he needs the Phase 2, it is gonna be the same price. This office has been great! We needed an emergency visit on a Sunday night and there was no charge, and they have been very easy to schedule with. It is Berekeley Orthodontics on Telegraph Ave & they have 2 more offices- 1 on Solano and 1 in Orinda. Good luck!

    We go to Rhigellis. Most orthodontists offer a free consult why not go to another office & compare the cost & treatment plan

    I think that price is typical. My teen with all his permanent teeth just saw someone in Danville. Estimated price was $6-7 thousand. Good luck!

    After being told my son needed braces by 4 different dentists since the age of 7 we finally bit the bullet this summer now that he is12. I don't buy in to the phased approach of doing braces when they are younger and then again when they are older. We wanted to do it once and waited until puberty set in to begin. We have a Delta Dental HMO plan that we purchase for around $200 per year (family of 4) and we found an excellent orthodontist, Dr. Robin Williams in Concord (through two recommendations of friends) who takes the insurance. That was the hard part. I recieved two quotes at $6500 without insurance. With insurance, Dr. Williams was able to bring our out of pocket costs to about $3800. If we paid up front he'd reduce by another 10%. We opted to pay a flat rate of $150 per month, no interest for 26 months. It's a great deal and so far we love him! You must have the insurance for the two years your kid is going through treatment--so you'd need to work that in to your cost. Our family uses the insurance for our regular dentist visits so it's beneficial to us.

    [Moderator Note Oct. 2018: it appears this practice has now closed.]

    It's really hard to shop around! We go to Rhigellis because he has a good reputation and is close by. We're paying about $6000. I could never do what the person who suggested going into the city does. It just takes too much time for my schedule so convenience, even if it cost a bit more, is a must for me. 

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Foster Child teen with Severe Overbite

Nov 2012

I am the new foster parent of a 15-year old boy with a severe overbite. He tries to hide his teeth by holding his lips over them or putting a hand over his mouth, and it saddens me to see him hiding his teeth this way; he is very self conscious and makes me delete any photos that show his teeth. His worker has told me that there is no funding for braces and the stipend I get from the county doesn't even cover his monthly expenses. This child has been moved around a lot and I can't help thinking that it's due in part to his appearance, he is a sweet kid. Has anyone dealt with a similar issue? I hesitate to take out a loan for orthodontics when I am struggling to make ends meet, plus ours is a new relationship and there's no guarantee he won't be moved again. Berkeley Foster Mom


I am a foster parent with experience in this exact issue. Can you believe it? That's why I love BPN.

I became a kin foster parent by surprise right before moving from San Francisco to Davis, so I was not experienced in the system AND not in our county, which makes it harder to get services. But I got my son braces, after also being told I couldn't. Things you can explore:

1) Denta-Cal. Find a Denta-Cal orthodontist and ask for an evaluation. Denta-Cal has a point system; if your teeth are bad enough, you get coverage for braces. It's got to be REALLY bad; since my son had had phase 1 of his braces while still with his bio mom, we didn't qualify. Make sure the orthodontist really knows his/her way around Dental-Cal.

2) Are you a San Francisco foster parent? There is actually a fund for this in San Francisco which none of our social workers had heard of. This fund paid for the whole thing with one check. The person who manages the fund is with the Human Services Agency, which was all I was told. I found this out from University of the Pacific Dental School, without even a name, and suddenly my social worker got it taken care of after months of my asking questions.

3) See what University of the Pacific's dental school will do for you. I personally was underwhelmed; my research suggests they're just another (expensive) Denta-Cal provider. But it's worth asking what they'd charge, if they have a relationship with your county, etc. Their ''discounted'' estimate was slightly higher than my Davis Dental-Cal provider's price.

4) Don't give up. I made more than 25 phone calls over a period of about 10 months before I got funding. Do not take no for an answer. Don't assume because your social worker says not that there is no option. Social workers are often well-meaning but wrong. If nothing else works, try calling orthodontists and asking if they have a charity program. Emphasize the difference they can make in your son's life.

Feel free to get my email from the moderator. Good luck and don't give up! fighting the good fight


My advice is to contact ALL of the local orthodontists in your area via email, explain your situation, send photos of the front and side of your foster kid's mouth, and see if anyone will do a probono case. I know there is a great orthodontist in Antioch who picks one ''scholarship'' case a year, and my guess is that there are more who do this. People really do like to change people's lives, and orthodontia is certainly one way to do that And, thank you, for fostering a teenager. Blessings to your and your family. wife of a dentist


I spoke with Shamorra in the office of my sons Orthodontist, Robert Iezman in North Berkeley. She said there is Berkeley Clinic Auxillary that will qualify your son and if approved, Dr. Iezman accepts these patients. However, he can go to other Orthodontists who accept these patients that may be more convenient to where you live, since going to your appointments often is what it takes! Call: Berkeley Clinic Auxillary is 510 525-7844. good luck. You are a good mom to figure this out for him. Smiles are so important.


University of the Pacific School of Dentistry in San Francisco might be an option. http://www.dental.pacific.edu Brenda


The Berkeley Clinic Auxiliary (BCA) subsidizes orthodontia. I learned of this organization (which has a thrift shop in Albany) through one of the orthodontists at Berkeley Orthodontics, which makes referrals to BCA. He advised making an appointment at one of their offices and suggested that their North Berkeley office at 910 Ensenada would be best (510) 528-1511. Bring up BCA at the appointment, and the rest should happen automatically. It could however be a concern if the child is moved out of the area, because the fee structure would likely not be accepted by another orthodontic practice if the treatment has to be transferred. Presumably BCA takes referrals from other orthodontists as well, but I don't have any information about that. This sounds like a worthy effort and I wish you well with it. optimoms


My daughter sometimes volunteers at the Turnabout Shop on San Pablo near the El Cerrito Theater--the shop raises money for a program that provides orthodontic care for kids in need. I don't know how hard it is to get into the program, but I'm sure one of the Berkeley Clinic Auxiliary volunteers at the shop could give you info. (510) 525-7844. Diane


As a child in the foster care system, this child should be eligible for Medi-Cal and Denti-Cal. I would encourage you to contact UCSF's Center for Craniofacial Anomolies: http://dentistry.ucsf.edu/patient-services/directory-of-clinics/center-for-craniofacial-anomalies They can determine the best course of treatment and are based in UCSF's School of Dentistry. Thanks for being a concerned foster mom. jr


I just happened to be sitting in my son's dentist office when I read your post. I read it to the well known Dr. Katsura and he asked that I put you in touch with his practice administrator Mahi Amerino it seems they work closely with a practice that may be able to help. I would be so, so happy that if by my paying for my teen sons cleaning it could extend to having your teen son become a proud, smiling and confident young man. Many thanks for taking one of our teens under your mama wing ! Monika


How to afford orthodontia?

Sept 2011

After two consults over the summer, we have concluded that my daughter does need braces, sometime in early to mid-2012. I don't have insurance coverage, and the cost is amazing! I got fees ranging from $4,600 up to $5,400. Has anyone else been in this situation? What have you done to pay for this? Any suggestions gratefully received! Thanks.


Orthodontia is tough! You have probably discovered that most dental insurance does not cover orthodontic work (though some will help some). Most orthodontists will allow you to pay over time. For my son's work, his insurance paid $1000 (his lifetime benefit), we paid $500 down and then $100/month for two years (these are approximate figures). We worry our daughter may have to start soon. And then either or both could need 'touch up' work later.

On the other hand, if there is a way to swing it, your kids will thank you. My son's teeth are gorgeous and his jaw is shaped better for eating and and the work improved his jawline. I wish my parents had done it! ortho poor


I hear you. We have insurance, but it only covers the first $1000. Many employers allow you to set aside money pre-tax (up to $5000/year) to pay for medical expenses. Depending on what tax bracket you are in, that can save you up to 35%. --parent of twins (who both need braces)


What if I don't get my son braces?

Aug 2011

My 10-yr-old has a small mouth and was diagnosed with crowding of his teeth early on. He has space maintainers now but will need braces. His insurance pays very little and I know I won't be able to afford it. Orthodontist wants a set amount per month ongoing and can't cut me a deal or recommend any affordable alternate treatment. Should I try getting referred to a different ortho? What happens if I let his teeth come in crowded in hopes they can be corrected later? Are there affordable ways to address this?


The world will not come to an end! Your son will likely end up with more cavities because it is harder to get in between his teeth, but unless he has an extremely small jaw there will probably not be any problem other than a cosmetic one.

I did do the whole ortho package for both of my children starting at 9 years old and went through making monthly payments for 2 years on each. The process is shorter when they are young and about 50% of the time it means you are done. The other 50% of the time you have to pay again for more work because the teeth shift as the kids age. Plenty of people wait until the kids are in high school, plenty don't do it and let the child make their own choice as an adult (and pay for it themselves).

Don't feel pressured into having to go one particular path - most of us grew up without and we survived! Maggie


Hi, I'm a dentist who is currently a SAHM. I know that braces nowadays, especially in the Bay Area, are very expensive. However, I'm not sure if you were informed that at 10 years old, you are catching this window of opportunity where your child's bone is still developing. Getting braces now can utilize the growth spurt and the teeth that are still coming in to align properly, rather than waiting after all the teeth are out and moving them around later. I had to get braces twice myself, and although controversial, some people believe that getting braces can be traumatizing to roots of the teeth if the movement is too rapid. Which means, shorter roots, and less stable teeth. Although it's been 10+ years since I've completed braces myself, I feel that my teeth rock a little.

If the current orthodontist doesn't have any more affordable ways to treat your child, I don't think it would be wrong to get a second or third opinion. Although, make sure you do the research on the orthodontist, more affordable doesn't always mean better.

One more suggestion, if it's possible, you can try the dental schools in San Francisco- UCSF and UOP both have orthodontic programs. To be a patient, you may need extra patience. All the residents in the programs are graduated dentists with dental licenses, but they are training to be orthodontists. Usually it is a bit more affordable, but you may need to jump through more hoops as far as school protocols and getting faculty approval. Good luck! vh


My pre-teen needs braces - we can't afford it!

June 2009

My preteen son has medical insurance through his dad, but not dental insurance. I am low income and have no medical or dental insurance myself. His dentist has told us that he will need braces for his teeth. Cost is $6,000. I am divorced and my ex-husband and I share all the costs related to our son. Needless to say, I cannot afford to pay even half of this. Is there not a way to reduce the cost of braces for low income people? I appreciate your input in this matter. Would like to have affordable braces


I had to get braces for both of my boys, whew! Expensive! But I did research it here on BPN and elsewhere and found Dr. Kevin Carrington in Oakland. His price was less than half of the other quotes I got! Also, he is not over-agressive in his practice, or try to talk you in to fixes you don't need. He's located on Broadway at 17th, his phone number is 548-4746. He also works on payment plans for most of the amount. Good luck! two boys in wires


Try University of the Pacific, San Francisco for low cost braces. I believe they offer braces on a sliding scale. Marie


I don't know how you can get financial assistance with paying for the braces but I can tell you that 6K sounds like a lot! We are paying $3,800 or thereabouts for both our kids at Berkeley Orthodontics. That seems to be about the going cost (+/-) of the places I checked out recommended by our dentist. While that won't help assist you it might reduce the cost 30% just by going to another orthodontist. We are quite happy at Berkeley Orthodontics. Good luck. Tracey