Artificial Grass

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  • Hi there, I've read a bunch of great posts with recommendations of grass alternatives, from Kurapia to Lippia repens & many others. I'm now looking for a recommendation for anyone who has installed some of these grass lawn alternatives, and would love to hear experience from anyone with kids & dogs about how they're holding up. Thanks!

    We have lippia (phyla nodiflora) around a rocky foot path. It has spread really well and has beautiful little flowers. It's great for our use case, but I wouldn't recommend it if you want to be able to walk/play a lot on it, since bees like to visit the flowers, and you don't want to step on a bee.

    Here's a pic: https://photos.app.goo.gl/eqyuarWAwXqG7yrTA (Ignore the hay strewn over, that's from my straw mulching elsewhere)

    Hello! We installed kurapia late last summer almost a year ago.  It all started amazing, plush green - though we discovered it needed more water than we thought, about once a day for the first month and then every two days.  When autumn came, it almost dried out completely, which was a bummer.  We thought it had died… but… come the very wet season this year by the end of spring it was coming back.  I planted some extra plugs in the areas that were without cover (it is easily found at East Bay nursery, it is the only one where I found it is consistently available.)  Now we have an almost full green plush cover that looks great!  We still have tiny dirt patches here and there, as it grows slowly.  My kid plays on it without problem, even now when it is in flower.  Many posts says it attracts bees, and while it does bring in some bees it totally manageable and it’s nice to see the bees among the flowers.  My dog plays fetch on it as well without issue, though she’s a small dog so I don’t know if a big dog would cause issues.  The only thing to note is that dog pee can sometimes kill the kurapia in patches, so be prepared to still water it to dilute the pee every 2 days or so.  You do need to pick up dog poo because if you leave it long (more than a day) it burns the kurapia.

    Summary: you need a lot of patience for kurapia to take hold, but once it’s established it works great for both kids and dogs.  It does need more water than you would have thought.

    I put in Kurapia between the flagstones of a path and in a little 5'x10' patch of "lawn". I bought plugs of it from one of the many companies that sell it and planted the plugs in the fall last year. They looked pathetic, but I never had to water. By late spring, the parts that got more sun had filled in, and at this point in the year, it's mostly all filled in; some parts of the lawn area that gets more shade still has some bare patches. The kids and we walk on it, no problem, but we're not playing football on it or anything. I have watered the lawn patch twice this year. I will have to start trimming it back from the flagstones soon.

    I love the flowers, and so do the bees. I've also seen butterflies on the flowers. If you don't want bees, you can mow the flowers off.

  • We're looking for recommendations for someone/company to install artificial grass in our backyard in Berkeley.  If you are happy with your installer and it's held up well ( resists unraveling, no weeds popping through, etc) would appreciate the rec. Also if you have any advice on type of grass/brand that is good for kids and a dog and any other lessons learned would appreciate the info. Thank you!

    Zamora Landscaping. They brought out samples of turf for us to choose the right one for our kid's outdoor play area. It has held up well.

    We have both kids and a dog and have had great success with our artificial grass in our yard. We use it very regularly and it has held up really well.

    We used Turf World/Shaun Steinbach for ours and his team did a great job, worked quickly and efficiently, and got it done at by far the lowest price of the quotes we got. We've had it for a little under a year. We have a 75-pound Pitsky (Piy-Husky mix) who is still a puppy and loves to run and jump and tear around the yard like crazy and it still looks great. When she poops on it, we have to wipe the poop spot and we hose it down every so often to keep it clean (when it's not raining buckets, of course). Our kids play on it regularly, running and jumping. It has held up really well in all this rain.

    Shaun/Turf World - shaun [at] ourturfworld.com or 510-754-5605

    We used Replicated Grass System about two years ago and have been incredibly happy with it. They had the best turf selection of all the places we got quotes from, were reasonably priced and did a great job. Haven't had any issues! 

    Please consider not installing artificial grass!  

    * It contributes to microplastic pollution.

    * It contains potentially dangerous chemicals, including PFAS ("forever chemicals") and may be a significant source of PFAS exposure because of the large area.  I would be reluctant to have kids playing on it daily.  

    * It's even worse than regular grass for insect life (the basis of the entire food chain). I really can't overstate how important supporting insect habitat is -- birds rely on the Bay Area as a crucial element of their migratory route, and our gardens are a main place they can stop over and refuel.  Pretty much all birds (even hummingbirds!) rely on insects to live.  

    * Digging out soil to replace it with sand kills insect and invertebrate habitat.

    * It absorbs much more heat than plants, contributing to local warming and heat island effects.

    * It prevents the absorption of stormwater.

    * If dogs pee on it, it really stinks.  

    Source of information about concerns with artificial grass: https://www.turi.org/Our_Work/Community/Athletic_Playing_Fields

    Suggestions for lawn alternatives here: https://calwildgardens.com/pages/3-easy-lawn-alternatives-for-drought-conscious-californians

    I know this is not what you asked (sorry) but artificial grass has negatives that people don't necessarily know about. 

    1) it can release synthetic particles into the air (where they can be breathed in by kids) and can leach them into the ground.

    2) it's made from fossil fuels and will end up in a landfill at some point. 

    3) It can harbor more harmful bacteria than living plants. With dogs and kids sharing the space that can get kind of icky.

    4) It can get hot (maybe not a bad thing thing in Berkeley?) and be abrasive.

    5) It has a negative impact on the minuscule critters in the soil.

    Best of luck whatever you decide to do.

  • We have effectively killed our the lawn in our backyard and plan to plant ornamentals and fruit trees. However, we would like to retain a small 12x10 ish area for picnicking and maybe an occasional slip and slide. 

    Does anyone have any information for a low water, low/no maintenance grass that we could install now?

    Any thoughts about an artificial turf that is soft with low/no maintenance? (We could put a mat down to protect the all-important slip and slide). I don't like the idea of plastic but don't want to use a lot of water, chemicals, etc. We do not have a dog but there are cats in the neighborhood since i know that there is a pet variable that folks consider. 

    thank you!

    We have approximately the same size patch in our backyard.  We went with artificial turf through Purchase Green.  At the time we went with them they had the best quality at the best price. Installation was a little bit of a hassle since they don't employ installers themselves and most installers have a minimum price which is pricey for such a small patch.  Also, the turf can get hot in warm weather so you will want some shade over it.  But its been several years and we have done absolutely nothing to maintain it yet it still looks great and does its job.  I wouldn't do artificial for a large space but for a small patch like yours its perfect.

    If you have kids I definitely recommend against artificial grass.  We had it in our backyard and ripped it out.  It gets way too hot in the summer sun and virtually unbearable to walk on while barefoot.  

    There are lots of nice drought tolerant varieties that have low water requirements, including some mounding types that are very fun.  

    We have a small area as well and wanted to cover an area that had been previously paved. We installed artificial turf over the top with a 1in play pad underneath (made from recycled rubber), and its a perfect play space for our daughter. We used https://replicatedgrasssystems.com for our install who I would recommend. only consideration for fake grass is if its is in direct sun - it does get HOT. We are lucky that ours is shaded most of the day, so we dont tend to have any issues but I know people who do. 

    We just did the same thing last fall. We used Delta Bluegrass Native no mow sod. It needs some water to get established but then less than a regular lawn and doesn't need to be mowed. We really like it so far, it is soft and nice to walk on in bare feet or lay down on. We picked it up from Encinal Nursery in Alameda but I think they have a bunch of nurseries you can order from in the east bay.

    After debating for a long time (I didn't like the idea of plastic, either), we installed artificial turf in our small, shady, unirrigated backyard 2-3 years ago and I am soooo happy with it. No weeding, no watering, no mud (the kids used it non-stop all year while we've been stuck at home, even in the rain) and it looks pretty and green every time I look out the back door. Definitely get some samples before you choose a turf so you can feel what they're like underfoot. We went with something similar to the "Jade 50" (it might have been the "Pet/Sport 60" - I can't find my notes right now) turf from Greenline (I think it's actually a similar turf our landscaper found locally) and it's soft enough to sit on and walk barefoot on, but has held up well to tons of soccer. We didn't want the pellet fill (those get everywhere, as parents of soccer players will know) - I think we went with a sand fill. Whatever it is, it doesn't come out of the turf and get all over the place, which was important to me.

    We like our Eco-Lawn.  It does need a sunny area, and for any seeded grass, this isn't the optimal season to plant (best when you can expect more rain).

    https://www.wildflowerfarm.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=20

    If you're going to picnic on it, you wil want to mow occasionally but you can also let it go un-mown and it will make nice waves of grass.

    We installed Delta No-Mow turf. It is a native fescue mix that looks like normal grass except a bit "bumpier." our toddler loves it. you can order it from Grand Lake Ace Hardware. as you probably know since you killed your lawn, lawns aren't great for the environment, but native grasses are friendlier to native bugs, etc., so they are a nice compromise! 

    We replaced our scruffy lawn two years ago with Bolero plus  sod. It is low water turf and sturdy, but soft enough to lie on.  Check the various fact sheets at http://www.deltabluegrass.com/sod-products/residential-commercial-sod

    We are in Walnut Creek, so heat tolerance was  essential. 

    Delta bluegrass has nice no mow sods: http://www.deltabluegrass.com/sod-products/california-native-sod

    this RTF sod is pretty good an low maintenance too: https://parkavenueturf.com/sod-varieties/drought-resistant/

  • AstroLawn synthetic turf?

    Aug 27, 2018

    Has anyone had AstroLawn fake grass installed by Home Depot? We're looking at their Allure product and it looks/feels right for our needs, but I can only find one online review of AstroLawn anywhere and it's terrible.  Does anyone have experience, good or bad, they can share? Thanks!

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  • We have a small backyard in Albany and would like to put in artificial grass that is good for a toddler.  It is only about 330 sq feet.  Does anyone have any recommendations of good artificial lawn brands and/or installers?  Many thanks

    While I do not have a recommendation I do have a caution.  We purchased a house with artificial grass in the back.  Ours is not shaded and it is too hot walk or sit on during sunny afternoons.  It also has little black rubber pebbles that come up (which for a toddler is probably okay but not for a baby who crawls around putting everything in its mouth).  

    While it looks pretty good, is zero maintenance, and saves lots of water, I plan to replace it with a smaller area of real grass so my kids can have a cooler place to sit and run barefoot during hot summer days.      

Archived Q&A and Reviews

Questions

Artificial turf to replace lawn

April 2013

We're considering removing our lawn which has been overgrown with a lot of weeds in our small front yard and replacing it was artificial turf. But I have seen bad turf at a neighbor's house. Does anyone have a recommendations for a brand or have suggestions for any other low-maintenance alternatives? Also the sprinkler system is leaking and needs to be re-done. We do have some nice roses we'd like to keep. We have young children and would like to make it somewhat kid-friendly. Thanks in advance! Alamedan


My wife and I attended the Home & Garden Show last weekend at Concord's Chronicle Pavilion. A vendor from Field of Green showed us samples of DuPont's Forever Lawn which were the most realistic-looking artificial grass we have ever seen. This is a premium product which should look good for many years. We spoke with a very knowledgeable representative, Barry Cameron, whose phone number is (707)328-0002. Their website is www.fieldofgreen.com. They can integrate sprinkler systems with their installations and come to you home to review your project and provide estimates. Other websites to check are www.foreverlawnwestinc.com and www.syntheticgrass.dupont.com. When we redo our landscaping this summer, I think this will probably be the product and vendor that we choose. Good luck! Ben


We replaced a rotting deck in our backyard with artifical turf. It was the best decision ever! We LOVE it. We can go out into the backyard within an hour or so after it rains and play without getting sopping wet or muddy. If we had a real grass lawn, I think it would be muddy most of the day since we don't have a lot of sunlight. My young son loves playing outside! the turf is awesome


Artificial Grass?

Oct 2012

My lawn died this year and all I'm left with is hard dirt. I am considering having fake grass put in. Does anyone have experience with this kind of product? What are the pros and cons? Is it very expensive? If you went for it, can you please recommend installer. Thanks


I know this is not what you were asking about, but have you considered planting a low-maintenance ground cover plant instead? You have to water it more as it gets established, but once it's established, it's very low maintenance. http://smsf- mastergardeners.ucanr.org/Elkus/ground_cover/ Just in idea in case you prefer some living plants in your yard if they were easier to maintain than a lawn. Andi


Have you used Eco Lawn?

Aug 2008

Hi, Has anyone tried a product called Eco Lawn. With the drought conditions we're in, I thought it would be a good alternative to what I currently have. Thanks! dead grass


Hi, Here's an interesting blog commenting on Eco Lawn: http://www.gardenrant.com/my_weblog/2007/09/eco-lawn---the-.html. I haven't used it before so I can't say one way or the other, but I thought you should know that Pacific Sod also carries a ''no mow'' lawn that looks similar and would not require the many hours of weeding a seeded lawn. Not sure how the water requirements compare. Also, even if it takes less water than a conventional lawn, you will still probably want an irrigation system. I recommend you talk to The Urban Farmer Store in Richmond (near Costco) about in-line emitter tubing placed under the lawn for very water efficient irrigation. Good luck! Claudia


I thought you should know that Pacific Sod also carries a ''no mow'' lawn that looks similar and would not require the many hours of weeding a seeded lawn. Not sure how the water requirements compare. Also, even if it takes less water than a conventional lawn, you will still probably want an irrigation system. I recommend you talk to The Urban Farmer Store in Richmond (near Costco) about in-line emitter tubing placed under the lawn for very water efficient irrigation.

I must disagree. ''No Mow'' is a sod blend of hard, creeping red and fine fescues. It's very shade tolerant (for turfgrass). It's also supposed to be fairly low water use/drought tolerant (again, this is lawn...it does need quite a bit more water than coyote brush, for example).

No mow is a misnomer. You will have to mow it, but probably less often than ''regular'' turf. You will get weeds....yes, we are in the west, the weed seedbanks are everywhere!! You will want an irrigation system. The underground emitter turf irrigation systems pretty much require you to remove your soil and replace it with 6-10 inches of sand. This is not a trivial exercise. If you have clay soil, such a system will not work without replacing the soil.

No Mow looks a heck of a lot better than plastic grass though. Ray


Artificial Lawns?

June 2008

We are thinking about putting in an artificial lawn in our 560 sq. ft. backyard to save water and to minimize maintenance. We've read that the new materials they use now are very life- like, good for kids to play on and pets to do their business around, and basically maintenance-free after installation. Does anyone have any experience with choosing, ordering, installing and (hopefully) enjoying their artificial lawn? Pros and Cons? Recommended companies? Does the product actually live up to the promises?
Looking for Lawn in All the Wrong Places


Park Day School in Oakland has a playground with artificial turf and would be a good example for you to see. I think it's been there over 5 years and still looks great. I'm a landscape designer and as a naturalist I never thought I'd like this stuff, but it does look and feel amazingly real and fits some real challenges. I recommend the brand called 'SynLawn' (http://www.synlawn.com) because it does not have the little rubber balls that eventually wash away like the other brands. I prefer their 'SynBlue' as it looks the most natural. Artificial turf has been great for wear and tear of kids and dogs (it does not burn skin or yellow from dog pee) and areas where grass is tough to grow under shade or areas that you just don't want to water but you want visual satisfaction. You can install it yourself or I'd be happy to recommend a contractor who could. That said, the down side is disposal and environmental impact. It's plastic. And though it saves water for the environment, the planet has already taken its toll from petrol-chemicals. Leigh


Hi, We had a big patch of concrete that we covered with artificial lawn and we are very happy with it- it is soft and has different hues of green. It looks like real grass. We bought it from synlawn.com and it was well worth its price. JZ


Anyone used Heavenly Greens (artificial lawns)?

May 2007

Just saw this company advertised in a local mailing, they are called Heavenly Greens and install an artificial turf/lawn called ''FieldTurf''. Can anyone offer any positive or negative comments about the company or product? It is appealing to us to have a spot of grass for the kids that requires no watering or mowing! Does it look like astroturf?! Thanks anon


I do not own a synthetic lawn, but I've done some research for a school project. FieldTurf, the artificial turf that Heavenly Greens sells, has some good points; primarily that it uses zero water and does not require pesticides or fertilizers. And of course, you don't have to mow it, which means no noxious emissions from a lawn mower. However, it heats up way more than natural grass or even concrete--not the safest play surface in the summertime. Also, although the company emphasizes that FieldTurf's cushioning uses recycled Nike sneaker soles, most of the crumb rubber is from recycled tires, which contain lead, arsenic, cadmium, copper, oil, carbon, and benzene. The tiny pellets tend to work their way to the surface of the grass, so you probably wouldn't want FieldTurf for a yard if you've got small kids or babies, who may eat it. (The pellets also get tracked indoors.) You should also ask the company how it suggests keeping the FieldTurf clean. They may suggest regular disinfectant applications, which you may not be wild about. Good luck on your decision. --Oakland mom


Waterless Grass

March 2007

I'm working on redoing my backyard and I like the idea of installing Waterless Grass (http://www.waterlessgrass.com/index.cfm). You don't have to mow, you don't have to water, it never dies and always looks great. My husband thinks it's a terrible idea, that it will lower the resale value of our home because nobody wants to have a yard with ''lame fake grass.'' What do all of you think? Jill 


I'm sorry to tell you that your husband is pretty much right. My cousin had it installed in her yard. The stuff does look great - from a few feet away you can't tell the difference. If you get upclose you can see that its synthetic but thats not a huge deal. The problem is the wear. A neighbor's dog peed on the ''lawn'' and the whole thing smelled NASTY. And on a hot day, forget it. You wouldnt even want to have the window open. Don't believe the whole thing about urine running through it like rainwater. Not true.


I would have to agree with your husband.

Although there is more at stake than just your property value. Astro Turf was bad eonough, but realistic looking synthetic grass???? I checked out the ''Waterless Grass'' website. Some of their selling points are: ''No wasting water. No more polluting lawn mowers. No chemical fertilizers or pesticides.''

My response to those selling points are: There are many other ways to beautify your back yard and not have to use a ton of water, it's called ''drought tolerant'' plants. The amount of pollution and waste that goes into making synthetic grass must be enormous! And it's plastic! Plastics come from petroleum! It's all chemicals. Plastics can off-gas, meaning it gives off gas and fumes. What happens when it sits in the hot hot sun? What kind of chemicals are you breathing? There is a 5 year warranty on this ''Waterless Grass'' as long as you do the yearly application of UV protection. Sounds like more chemicals to me.

Here is a commentary from a blogger who just happens to have a neighboor who installed ''Waterless Grass''. It doesn't sound like a good idea:

http://blogging.la/archives/2005/09/the_stepford_la.phtml

If we all want to combat pollution and greenhouse gases that cause global warming, than we need to be ''greening'' the planet, not stripping away the greenery and replacing it with petrolium products. Real trees and plants help to absorb carbon dioxide. They make our planet beautiful. They are healthy for the environment, people and animals.

Research: drought tolerant gardening; California native plants; low maintenance easy care plants; alternative ground covers instead of traditional lawns.

That's what I think. Laurey


Instead of grass or fake grass, how about putting in a low maintenance ground cover that requires little to no water and no mowing? Maria