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- Family of 5 in a 2-BR apartment
- Making one bedroom into two for 10 & 12 y-o's
- Remodeling: should we add another bedroom for future sib?
- 3rd child in a 2 bedroom condo
Family of 5 in a 2-BR apartment
Dec 2011
My family of 5 lives in a 2 bedroom apartment. My 7 year old twin boys share one room. My 4 year old daughter sleeps w/me in the big bed. My husband sleeps in the family room! Our unused crib is finally gone and we'd like to get my daughter into her own bed. She's very excited by the prospect of having Hello Kitty sheets! My question is whether it's appropriate for the kids to all share a room. My 7 year olds are very body aware at this point (but as 7 year olds, find it all silly and provocative), my 4 year old is a bit less so, but we do emphasize privacy, private areas, etc. in our house. My 4 year old also likes to have alone time to ''wiggle'' as we call it. So in writing this I'm thinking no, but my husband would really like to get back into our bed. Unfortunately, putting a mattress in our room would pretty much take up all the floor space, and limits adult privacy as well. Any thoughts or ideas? anon
We just got loft beds...I highly recommend them. Get two, for the 7 year olds, and put a twin bed under one of them (perpendicular to the loft, or a futon on the floor lengthwise) for the 4 year old. That way everyone has their own space, and your floor space will increase considerably. There are many available. We ordered ours from CollegeBedLofts.com. heidilee
There are several ways to make bunk-type beds to divide even a smallish room into separate private spaces by making a bunk bed that has access to one side for the lower bunk and access to the upper bunk from the other side only. Seems you'd need a triple-decker with two beds open on one side and one bed open on the other side.
We got to be inventive during graduate school, living with kids in a tiny one-bedroom on-campus flat.
For us, the one tiny bathroom was our greatest challenge.
Hi there i shared bed room with my older brother from 3 to till i was in high school(when i got my own room). and for most reason it was quite ok for me. I shared the room with him almost equally till i was in my 5th grade and then we started fighting for our space so we had some rules between us to work around it.
but till about 4-5 grade we were absolutely fine with the sharing. i believe it helped us both a great deal with sharing and understanding. about the privacy part, they will learn quickly. you might have to insist on a few things and make them understand but they will understand and work with it as time goes.
about having her own little space.. may be you can come with an arrangement where in your daughter could use your bed room for her little self time during the day. hth s
First off, I have no idea what you mean by needing alone time to ''wiggle.'' But that said, our three children share a room--they are a 10 yo boy, 7 yo girl and 4 yo girl. We have only two bedrooms also. So far, it's fine, no issues. They mostly like being together. Go for it. Mom in a small house
follow up on ''room to wiggle'' - i just figured this was a euphemism for the joys of self-pleasuring. lots of little kids do it - a 4-year-old is big enough to want a little privacy around it - i think any of the loft/bunk bed situations recommended (plus maybe a little curtain or canopy or just a great big pillow to hide behind) could certainly do the trick. i may be reading too much into ''wiggle'', though, so this may not be relevant at all. my kids are ''wiggly'' too
Making one bedroom into two for 10 & 12 y-o's
June 2007
Our two boys ages 10 and 12 share one very large bedroom. They want to have their own bedrooms. Any advise on how to erect a wall cheaply or on room dividers? Any other advose on this idea of private space? anon
I suggested this to a friend years ago for splitting a small bedroom and it worked fantastically. Basically make or use a bunkbed. Place it in the middle (where you would split the room). Close off the side of the bottom bunk with plywood, shelves or something like that. You want to secure it. Close off the opposite side of the top bunk all the way to the ceiling. You can make it longer than the bed if you have the space. Good luck. I think I originally saw the idea in one of those books on kids rooms in a hardware store about 20 years ago. Wish my parents had done that.
Funny you should mention this! Last year, as our two kids reached 10 and 11, we split their big bedroom into two. It took a bit of cleverness, but has been quite successful.
The main bedroom was about 11 feet x 12 feet, and we built a wall of 2x4s laid the flat way (so the divider is actually 2 inches wide). We attached 2x2's to the ceiling by screwing them through the plaster and into the studs.
We didn't want to damage the wood floor, so we put low-stickum painter's masking tape on the floor where the divider would be. We then used double-sticky foamtape to stick 2x2s on top of the masking tape. We then built the wall framing between the ceiling and floor 2x2's. When the framing was up, we put up 3/8'' plywood over all, and then finished with wooden beadboard. We insulated the space to cut down on noise transfer.
We added a little slot to let the kids pass notes between the rooms. Also, it's easy to add electric outlets on a new wall, so we did.
Our daughter preferred her bed to be in a closet, about 5 feet off the floor, with a desk beneath. The bed fitted in perfectly and she loves the cozy space. However, during the winter, water vapor from her breath condensed on the walls, ceiling, & window. Later, I solved this by adding a small ventilation fan and heater duct.
This divider was probably overkill, but it's withstood plenty of bumps & kicks, and has provided just the privacy that the kids wanted. The project took about a week, and materials cost around $500 (I did all the work myself) When we remove the divider, there'll be some minor plaster repairs. Cliff
I've seen this done with two men sharing a bedroom. Floor to ceiling sheets became a wall - one of the guys had a couple sheet walls to make his space a box, and the other guy had the path around that and his own space outside of the enclosed box. Nice and cheap
Remodeling: should we add another bedroom for future sib?
Nov 2002
We are starting to do some remodeling and one of the questions is whether we should add enough space for two rooms (or divide the available space) for kids. We only have one child (girl) now, but I expect that we'll eventually have two.
My husband shared a room with at least one brother until college, I am an only child who always had her own room. We both think it would be fine to have two daughters share a room, but are wondering at what age would we want to separate a boy and a girl into their own space?
And a further question: is it important to have the kids' room (s) on the same floor as a bathroom? I have visions of our now 6 month old as a toddler, needing to go to the bathroom at night and either falling down the stairs, or giving herself a bladder infection by holding it in in fear of the dark stairs.
Any advice would be appreciated. Remodeling Mom
As long as you're going through the trouble and expense of remodeling you might as well add the extra room....if it ends up that your future 2 girls share a room forever, fine, you'll have an extra room that will certainly find a purpose. If you have another boy, at some point they will want separate rooms. My 2 boys shared a room till the older one was 10 and then he started asking for his own room. We have one spare room which he now sleeps in though his clothes and stuff is in the other bigger room...someday we hope to remodel and have that extra room or two. My advice....go for it. Good luck surviving a remodel. I hear you'll need it. cramped mom
If you have the space, go for the extra bedroom. My oldest two are boys who didn't get along until the oldest left for college! They shared a room for the first half of their childhood and had their own rooms the second half. Much better if they have their own space, even if it's tiny. I hope yours are great pals and get along together well, but if they don't, your entire family will be grateful for the separate rooms. Ginger
I think if you can fit two rooms in, you should. It gives you more options later. Even if you wind up with siblings who want to share a room, they can share one bedroom and one playroom/study. As for the bathroom, well, *I* wouldn't want to have to climb stairs in the middle of the night, so given the option I wouldn't want my children to have to do so either. But these things never seem to come out perfectly, so only you can decide whether having bedrooms without a same-floor bathroom is acceptable given whatever space challenges you have. Holly
3rd child in a 2 bedroom condo
Oct 2002
We are presently a family of 2 adults plus a 3 year old and a 1 year old and I just found out I am pregnant. We cannot afford a home in the Bay Area so we bought a 2 bedroom condo before our 1 year old was born. I feel we are going to get funny looks from other condo owners and I don't feel this is an ideal situation, but I'm too stressed to move and we love the Bay Area. I'm sure this situation will work itself out, but any suggestions?? Thanks!!!
I have three sons 16, 13 and 9. We're in a two bedroom house in Albany and due to financial setbacks I never could add on. I'm amazed at how my children have managed to carve out space for themselves. I always had their toys in the living room because I wanted them near me. So their room is for sleeping and dressing. The oldest does his homework there, too. He puts on his CD player and he has his own world. He reads a lot in his bed. The other two have desks in the living room.
It's really worked out alright, I'd say they are closer emotionally than if they had their own rooms.
One strange thing is that they fear being alone much longer than I think is usual. But the 13 and 16 year old are fine.
One day I overheard a conversation my sons were having about big houses -- ''In some of the houses the kids don't even SEE each other,'' my son said.
So my experience has been that you can define their own space -- their own book shelves, toy shelves...It's cozy, too. Cornelia
We have a three bedroom house with four kids. We manage to fit. When the children were younger we were all within two of the bedrooms. All of our babies slept with us until they were almost three and the kids of opposite sex shared rooms until they were about seven years old. You will manage to fit within your space. It might become more difficult when the children are older. But you have many years to figure it out before it should really be a problem. Susan
That is a great question. We're in a similar situation. The three of us are in a 1,000 square foot home that isn't well laid out for maximizing living space, and with 1 preschooler it's already crowded. But we live in a wonderful neighborhood and our mortgage is very manageable. I really look forward to the responses.
We have a small Berkeley house and decided to remodel and add on when my youngest was in 1st grade. My two kids could no longer really share a room (boy/girl) and one small bathroom was making us nuts. We remodeled and added an upstairs with a laundry room, bathroom, and kids rooms in 2014. We went from 900 sq ft to almost 1500. No regrets!
I don't have an answer to this question, but we're in the same exact position (one child family, kid in preschool, living in an 800 sq ft. 2 bedroom), so I'd like to follow what others respond to. We've also considered doing an addition on our house, but even that seems so expensive and I'm unclear on whether the stress and cost of it would equate to that much more ease and joy with the bigger space. Following!
We are in the same situation, except with two kids. I always assumed we'd move by this point, but we keep looking and to get a significant amount of increased space, we either have to pay an arm and a leg (which we don't have, even with the equity in our current home) or sacrifice on location, housing quality, or both. We ultimately gave up and decided instead to renovate our existing home to add a bathroom and expand our usable outdoor space. (We looked into adding another bedroom as well, but it was going to cost as much as moving, so skipped that.) Our house does feel small to me--it's certainly much smaller than the houses my partner and I grew up in--but we have had several candid discussions about it as a family and our kids (now upper elementary) are adamant that they want to stay in the house if the alternative is to move to a larger home somewhere where they'd have to change schools. We feel far more limited by the bathroom than by the bedrooms/square footage, but I think this would be manageable with one bathroom if we had just one child. We'll see if they change their tune by middle/high school (and if they do, we'll revisit a move at that point). With a preschooler, the major thing I'd be thinking about is where you plan to send your child to school and how that might be affected (positively or negatively) by a move.
We are having the same (if slightly different) issues here. After exhaustedly running the numbers, we decided on a major remodel/addition. It boggles the mind, but it makes more sense financially for us to spend a LOT of money to add to our home then to move. The thing that really gets in the way of us moving is the huge jump in our property taxes. Our house is big enough for right now (5yo and 2yo), but we're expecting that in a few more years additional space is going to be important for our sanity. Barring unforeseen financial windfall, moving is not going to be in the cards until the kids are out of the house and we're ready to downsize. So we're going big. If you like your neighborhood then I think you should research cost of adding a bathroom. We added a bathroom and it was a total gamechanger. And so much more manageable than buying and selling. If it's in your budget, think about adding a third bedroom or small office. Or updating your garage if you have one.
We were in a similar spot. We bought a small 2/1 (about 975 SF) before our son was even born. By the time he turned 12, we felt like we needed a bigger space with a second bathroom. What really sealed the deal was the onset of COVID; being in that small space with a tween every day made it clear that for us, the right decision was selling and buying a bigger house.
It's worth also exploring investigating adding or converting space in your existing house would make sense, though it's often fairly expensive unless it's something like finishing a garage or basement. People have often raised a small house to add a floor below it. There are often property tax benefits to doing an addition instead of selling and buying.
I am a single parent of one child, in 1000 sq ft with one bathroom. I would have liked a family room with a full bathroom, with the option to have turned that space into something like a studio apartment for my child when she was an older teen/young adult, so she would have a separate place to have friends over and keep her own hours, which are about 3 hours off from mine. However, truthfully, for two people we have enough space, it is just very communal. And now that she is a young adult and almost on her own, I don't need any more space for just me so I am glad I never moved. During the lock in phase of the pandemic and she was home, I was considering renting out my house and renting another with a better division of space. That may be the solution when your child gets older, renting a bigger place and renting out yours for a couple of years until your child goes to college.
No, not really. We have lived in the same 3 Bed 2 bath condo since my son was born. He is now in middle school. His stuff takes up a lot less space than when he was a toddler so if you can manage pre 5 it only gets easier. We got a dog last year and still fit nicely. The thing that changed was we feel the need for more outside space as he grows. I would suggest focusing on your needs and what you can afford and not worrying too much about what the housing market is doing or may do.
I raised two kids in a 1600 sq foot house, which some people consider small! I loved it and recommend it! I really liked having a sense of where everyone was and what was going on. The one tiny bathroom you mentioned seems like it may get to be an issue as your child gets older. Of course manageable if necessary but maybe you could add on a half bath?
As your child gets to be a teenager, they are going to want to hang out with their friends. With prior arrangement, we just went and hid in our bedroom, leaving the "great room" for the kids from time to time.
I think 2 bedroom is fine for a family of 3, especially if there's a nook or a flex space that can serve as a small office. We are a family of 3 and were quite happy in a 2 bedroom house (about 1300 sq ft). We had 1 tiny bathroom, which was always an issue. We did move to a slightly larger house (about 1500 sq ft). We didn't move because of the space but we moved because of schools and ended up being lucky to find a place that was a little bigger. The house still has 2 bedrooms but has a little sun room that we can use as an office and has a usable basement space, although it's not up to code or permitted. It had only 1 small bathroom but we spent every penny we had left over and added another bathroom. I'm not sure about your child's personality but we are finding that as our child grows older, space is less of an issue. Unlike toddler years, our child does not require a lot space to run around and move about and does not have million little toys that are spread all over the place. The child often spends hours in a reading nook or plays video games. But, I cannot imagine living with a daughter hitting puberty with only 1 bathroom. I think it's generally cheaper to add a bathroom. If you have an existing structure, maybe converting it to an ADU can add valuable space. Or is basement or attic conversion an option? We have friends who have kids in high school. They have wanted more space but are now realizing that in a year or 2, kids will leave and the house will feel quite spacious.
We lived in a 1000 sq ft house when our children were young. I liked it because I could always know where my children were. It worked through elementary school for us. As our children got older, there was a little more desire for privacy among both the children and the adults. We began to try to figure out how to create more space in a small house. Where could we create another room? The garage? A shed? It all seemed too expensive with limited results. We moved. I can’t tell you when to move. There was a financial crisis and the prices all dropped in a timely manner for us.
I'm anxiously awaiting other responses, because I'm also curious about this. Our family is in a similar situation. We have 2 kids in a 3-bedroom house in Oakland. With a tiny bathroom. Probably even tinier than your bathroom! Currently I'm using the smallest bedroom as my work-from-home office, which I really need for my profession. But that means the 2 kids are sharing one bedroom. Currently they are ages 8 (girl) and 5 (boy). They're using bunk beds, which we don't like, but it's the only way to make the space work for 2 kids to sleep there. It seems like the two of them sharing a bedroom can't last forever. I don't think we should ask my daughter to go through puberty while sharing a room with her little brother. And the tiny bathroom is already a source of stress, when multiple people need to use it at the same time. So we're thinking we're gonna have to move to a larger place, with at least 4 bedroom and 2 bathrooms. But I'm curious to hear from other parents, who have gone through this with older kids, what they think about this issue.
This may not be the answer you're hoping for, but: Our family of four was living in a neighborhood we really liked, in a 1929 house that we enjoyed but that felt quite tight (long before the pandemic). We wanted more living space and knew we could expand the home's footprint into our sizable backyard, but would then a) have to live through a remodel and b) would still be living in small bedrooms with small 1929 closets, with no money left over to overhaul a kitchen and bathrooms that literally hadn't been updated since the 1970s.
My spouse and I both switched jobs specifically in pursuit of more $$ (the work was also an improvement) and we found a larger home in our neighborhood, five blocks from our too-tight home. EVERYONE in the family was delighted with the change. Kids stayed in the same neighborhood schools, saw their friends, had more space to hang out with friends at home. Husband and I each had a private workspace in the home during the pandemic.
For years after the move, I said, "I know money can't buy happiness, but...sometimes having more space means more happiness."
We have struggled with the same issue. We have a two bedroom one bath home about 1200 square feet and we have been torn for years whether to move or expand. We like, but don't love our neighborhood, but we also really like not being house poor, because we've owned our home for so long. We have one kid at home, but not additional family space outside of the living room, and would like a third bedroom for guests and when ommy bonus daughter visits. Ideally we would like to build a second story and add two bedrooms and a bath and then add space for a family room downstairs. We're also not sure what to do.
A good friend of mine bought a small 2br/1ba house in Berkeley with his wife and two kids. They anticipated moving to a bigger house when the kids got bigger. Over time their income and investments didn't keep up with the RE market so they decided to stay in their house. They also loved their neighborhood. They did a renovation within the envelope of the house. They actually carved out a second tiny bathroom out of one of the bedrooms for their kids to use. That divided bedroom now just held a bunk bed and closets. It basically became a place to sleep. They added a tiny building in their very small backyard. It consisted of a finished room (electricity but no water or heat), maybe 6'x8', that they used as an office and occasional guest room. It also included significant storage. It works for them because the kids are super active and rarely home. One parent uses the backyard office, the other works outside the home.
We on the other hand we looked initially for a 2000 sqft house for our family of four, mindfull of the experience our friends had. After biding on many, many houses, we wound up buying a much larger house. During the shut down we realized that despite the large amount of square footage, our house didn't have many doors (and the doors it did have had large gaps between the bottom of the door and floor). This meant you could hear everything everywhere. Which was good when you have very young children but not so good when working from home or doing zoom school.