Difficulties Parenting a Toddler

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  • I'm seeking advice from parents who had to choice to stay at home with kids or work. I have a wonderful, remote, flexible, well-paying, and stimulating job that I landed in after going to grad school and changing careers in my mid 30s. I've been in the new career for 5 years. I also have two young kids under 4. Every day I feel horrible guilt and FOMO as I send them off for others to take care of them, and only see them for a few hours in morning and evenings. I am constantly stressed trying to balance all of the kid's needs, make dinner happen, and do most of the household management (we have a bimonthly house cleaner and my partner helps, but we're both struggling to keep up). I feel extremely stressed and sad, wishing to spend more time with my young kids.

    I'm also privileged in that my partner makes enough money for the family and I don't need to work for financial reasons. I am not an enterprising person, so I feel next to incapable of starting my own "project" which gives me the purpose and intellectual stimulation that my job provides. I also struggle without structure, so I enjoy having that stimulation and a development path built into my job. I've seen so many women of past generations go into intellectual atrophy as stay at home moms (not that it happens to everyone), and I feel like I'm a likely candidate for that trajectory if I don't stay involved with something. If I take a career break, I worry that I won't be able to return to work in an intellectually stimulating job. It's possible I will, but it's also possible that I won't have many marketable skills at that time.  I'm not a doctor or engineer or someone with a very specialized skillset. I have a semi-specialized skillset, I suppose, in a tech-related field.

    My current job is so great, I feel like I'll never get anything like that again. I am taking full advantage of the flexibility, but I still experience the stress and sadness. I also feel a strong sense that my older kid would greatly benefit from more 1:1 time with me, and less time at school. 

    Any words of advice? Resources to consult? Personal experiences? What re-entry paths did you take to return to the workforce?

    Are you stressed because of all the stuff you feel you have to do that isn't spending time with your kids? Household management, etc.? If that is the case, then you should stay in your job, and your family should use its money to outsource the household management. That way, when you are off work, you can 100% just be there with the kids. 

    How do you split the household and life work with your partner? Do they feel guilt and FOMO over the few hours you both have with the children? 

    I don't know your situation (maybe you're independently wealthy), but I would not quit my job because if anything happened to my partner or our marriage, I would be fucked. My best insurance and safety net, for myself and my family, is my ability to earn a living.

    If you are sad and stressed now, and you value having an intellectual outlet and structure, I am not sure you would be more happy without a job. I think you may then just be differently unhappy. Maybe time to talk things through with a therapist?

    Hi,

    I'm sorry you are struggling and I can relate to much of what you said. My kids are 3 and 6 FWIW, and I do think these ages are noticeably easier than like a year ago at 2 and 5. Given everything you described, I would try to go part time and either take a day or two off a week or end my day very deliberately at like 2 or 3 PM if your employer can be flexible in that way. If they won't do it, then I think you should consider taking a couple years off to get through these more difficult years. I don't think two years out of the workforce is a big deal. It's very explainable and won't put you very behind. You've put in 5 solid years and it sounds like you'll be able to get a great recommendation from your employer or even go back there. You're really articulating a strong desire and rationale to be with your kids more and were I you, I would follow that instinct first however it has to happen.

    I grew up in Latinoamérica. My siblings and I had a wonderful nany. It was other times and another culture where that was the way middle class behave. I have grown up kids and it was so stressfull to raise them here without real help and no family. You said you are financially stable, so if you have enough money, get the help you need, someone who will clean at least once a week and do your laundry . Someone who can prep healthy dinners that you can reheat or finish with the help of the kids. All that time that you don’t have to spend doing household work, you can dedicated to the family ( including date nights with your partner)

    If you have the money, it is a matter of not feeling guilty and reorganize yourself with different set of rules…

    Do not quit your job just focus on having quality time with the family.

    Came to say the same thing! Caring for children, keeping your household running, and cooking for the family are three full time jobs in themselves.  If your job's money is bonus for your family, use it to buy yourself time.  Outsource everything- get someone who comes in for an hour daily and cleans so you don't have to do the dishes.  Get homemade dinners delivered (I have loved food from Rachel Berinsky http://essberkeley.com/?page=contact).   If you think your older kid would benefit from more time at home, hire a nanny or get an au pair who can let her hang at home more (this is what I've done for my kid, and it has gone a long way, even though I'm not with her for those hours).  I am a way worse mom when I don't get out in the world and do grown up work and it sounds like you might be the same.  Don't underestimate how much being a happy and fullfilled complete person makes you a better mom.  

    I agree with a lot of what the previous poster said.  I don't think it's a good idea to quit a job you love just because you feel guilty about not spending enough time with your kids.  If you have the resources, outsource as many non-kid related tasks as you can. Maybe more frequent house cleaning?  Focus more on quality of time with your kids rather than quantity.  What about the time you spend together as a family on the weekends?  Probably a good idea to talk to a mental health provider about the source of your mom guilt and how to let it go. 

    If you feel your mental load between you and your partner is imbalanced, you might like to check out Fair Play (https://www.fairplaylife.com/).  There's a book, documentary, and card game about rebalancing household chores and mental load in an equitable way. Even if you earn less than your partner, your time is not less valuable. 

    Nothing to add that would be helpful, but I wanted you to know that I am very much in a similar boat.  In a perfect world, I would quit my job and spend time with my kids; and then once they “didn’t need me” anymore, I could just go back to work.  Though I like my job, I love my kids and spending time with them more; and the only reason I’m still working is for my future self.  But present self is sad and wants more time with these quickly growing, beautiful children.  It’s so hard.

    This might not be possible with your employer, but I went part-time during COVID and never returned to full time and it has been the best decision ever. I spend way more time with my child and know I can go back full time if I ever need to and I don't worry about intellectual atrophy. If you've had this career 5 years, your job likely knows how valuable you are (it's expensive to hire new people and have turnover!) and you can afford to get paid less (sounds like you can) then a part-time, remote, flexible job has pretty much been ideal for us in a similar situation. If they're hesitant, maybe you can frame is as temporary and then they can see how well it works or go from a "leave" of some sort where you're totally off (if you had a reason for that) to coming back part time and slowly let that be the situation. I know it's hard for some part-time people to create boundaries and they end up working full-time for less money, so you just need to know what sort of a "boundaries" person you are or make sure that you have specific "off days" if you struggle with this. This time is fleeting with our kids and I never regret having more time with my kid, but at the same time, it really seems like something special to have a work from home, flexible job that pays well, so I would do what I can to keep one foot in it unless you feel confident you could get something like that back someday. 

    Gosh, I can relate to everyone you said here. I too had a very specialized career, and I need a LOT of intellectual stimulation in general. Prior to having a child I always was completely independent from my partner ready to make it in the world solo. I had the choice to stop working when my child was born. It was an extremely difficult choice but I left my job and I am so happy to be having this intimate time with my child and extended family and friends that will never be available after the time is passed. My rare job setup will be difficult to find again, but unlike the childhood years it’s not impossible. This is such a personal choice and I am not recommending my exact steps, but thought I would lend my thought process in case it’s useful. Of course I miss using my brain amongst intellectual collaborators sometimes, but I’ve found engaging things to be involved with in my communities. I loving having the bandwidth to forge strong relationships with other families and bring people closer. I do look forward to returning to work but life is long and I am not rushed. I found my way to my niche career once so I feel emboldened that I can do it again (even though it feels scary. it was scarier the first time!). Here’s another perspective: I am from a culture where families go all in fully committed, and together they are stronger than each individual. We American women are bombarded with messaging that we must do it all, and do it independently, or it’s unfeminist or sloppy or a bad future investment. I am taking wisdom from both my heritage culture of collectivity and my born-culture of American hyper-independence and carving a middle path. It took my a long time to get here, but now I see there’s a huge amount of pressure for women here to be a certain way, and I was responding to that pressure unconsciously. 

    Have you considered working part time?  I bet you have looked into this with your current employer—but if it’s not possible with them, maybe you can casually (in your ample free time) look around for a new job where this is possible.  

    I did this when I was also considering leaving the workforce and I’m very happy with the decision. I work 60%, meaning I get two days at home. I didn’t start the new job at 60%, but once I had the offer I asked questions to HR and other employees if they had other folks on part time schedules and if the company was supportive of that, and flagged to my future manager that I was interested to gauge her reaction. The first job they I could tell they kind of freaked, so I didn’t take that one! And the second time, everyone was super supportive. I certainly felt vulnerable asking any questions indicating work wasn’t absolutely my 100% priority at all times :D but the security of having an existing job helps with the bravery to ask about what you really want!  I went down to 80% after 6 months on the job and 60% after returning from maternity leave with my second. 

    I find 60% is a great way to keep my career on simmer and still have time with my kids. I wish you the best of luck navigating this system that is not set up to support working parents!!!! 

    Can you ask your employer for a part-time schedule? I recently went to 20 hours a week. We still have full-time daycare, but I can pick up early or drop off late. It makes running the house, sick days and getting dinner on the table far more manageable. Plus I still get to use my brain and pursue meaningful projects. I've found employers are more happy to pay for fewer hours. 

    As a Mom I think it is incredibly common to feel guilt when you are not with your little kids. I know for me it was almost primal. But you can also recognize that your kids are loved, happy and well cared for. Part of the challenge is giving yourself permission to be a dedicated working mom and knowing that your kids will be fine. I always reminded myself that I was showing my kids a good example of a working woman and that was an important role model I wanted them to see. I get the sense that it is your mental framework that is making you unhappy, that you are punishing yourself for working. If you can change that framework it may give you space to decide what you really want to do more objectively. 

    Another thing to keep in mind is that your oldest is close to school age. In a few years both kids will be in school. What is your vision for those years? 

    Finally, I wouldn’t fear leaving the workforce for 2-3 years. I didn’t so I don’t have direct advice and you may not get the exact amazing set up you have right now but a short break shouldn’t derail your entire career and you have a safety net if it takes a little longer to find what you want. 

    If you put the guilt to the side - what is it you really want to do? 

     

    Hi - thank you for sharing your story. 

    My kids are now 12, 14, and 16.  I have worked outside the home the entire time while we've been raising them - though I did take nearly a year off when each one of them was born (essentially therefore truly slowing down my career for 5 years - the two years in between I didn't do much).  Here is how I navigated this - may be very different than what you're thinking - this is just one example. 

    1.  I truly accepted the principle that my kids are much better off when I'm working outside the house than not.  This is for many reasons.  As you have done, I also heavily invested in myself, including my education.  I did not believe that having kids meant that 'I was done'.  I loved my job - and I wanted to keep going.  More importantly though - me being happy gave my kids a much higher chance to be happy. I felt that them being watched by others 50 hours per week was GOOD for them.  I felt that the nannies / daycares / au'pairs were able to offer better activities than I could.  I felt like I was too selfish to create magical days for them in the forrest which they got while at pre-school.  I also knew that when I was young I get very little attention and I don't believe it's a bad thing.  I want my kids to build resilience and independence - which for me meant that they didn't always need to be with one of their parents. This meant that I got rid of the guilt - my children live a very nice and privileged life - better off than 90% of the world's kids.  They have two parents who are married and love each other and love them dearly and are well cared for
    2. We had rules at home:  no more than 50 hours ever of care (unless in the evening when kids are asleep) - it was really important for both my husband and me to have mornings and evenings with the kids and weekend days as well.  Which meant that we didn't get to do our own hobbies (golf, tennis, we thought about sailing) during the weekends - we dedicated that time to our family.  Same with evenings before bed time.  
    3. We outsourced everything...cooking for the kids, cleaning, errands esp.  This allowed for more time with the kids.  
    4. We traveled extensively as a family.  When they were younger and we were were earlier in our careers - we couldn't do as much travel - but still did travel several weeks per year even when kids were 2, 4, and 6.  We always felt that these trips truly bonded our family. 
    5. My husband fully supported my career and we have been ruthless in splitting family responsibilities.  At some point we used Fair Play products - but generally this is key.  He also manages a really high-pressured career (works at start-ups) but prioritizes life at home. 
       

      This is all pre-pandemic - we needed to commute to work which also took extra time.  I feel like having a very flexible job that you love is a dream and one that I wouldn't easily give up.  My kids are all well-adjusted and doing OK.  My career really took off where I am now at the top of my profession which allows me for much greater flexibility and autonomy.  For example, my oldest daughter is at a dance camp at University of Michigan right now and she just texted me how she wishes that I was there for the final performance (this Saturday). I just cleared my calendar for Friday and will hop on flight to surprise her on Saturday and fly back home with her.  I love that my two daughters have an example of their mom working and being completely independent - I would be able to take care of our whole family without and issues if something were to happen.  I like that feeling.  I like to keep growing and learning.  I like to share that experience with my kids.  

      One other thing - the time goes by VERY fast.  I think it's critical not to 'stop' life while the kids are young - whatever passions and likes and desires you had prior to the kids - they are still there.  Kids will eventually leave (I only have TWO years left!) and I believe that having my own life and nurturing it while raising them is critical - having friends, focusing on my husband, my career, etc...these are my things and I am still a human with needs and wants and desires.  These things need to get me through life overall.  Otherwise kids will take everything from you and I don't know whether that's actually good for them.  

    I sympathize! Is dropping down to part time (even temporarily) an option for you? Many parents at my work place have done that when their kids are young (usually 60 or 80%), and I am planning to do that too when I return to work in a few months (I’m currently on parental leave). I’m hoping it will provide more of a feeling of balance. I know that it has been really helpful for some of the other parents I work with.

    I struggle with all of this as well--and I don't know a working mom who doesn't, even those of us who love our careers. There are a few books I've read that have helped me a lot recently:

    I Know How She Does It by by Laura Vanderkam - this is admittedly a book for a very small slice of the population, but I suspect that like me you're in it. It features real-time diaries of working moms in senior positions who make at least $100K and pulls out themes of how they effectively manage their time. Two big takeaways for me were 1) outsourcing (what can you pay someone else to do to take something off your plate--meal delivery and prep services for example) and 2) reframing (how can you think about getting in quality time with your children through daily life--involving them in chores, engaging with them during commutes, etc.). She also talks a lot about embracing your privilege and any flexibility you have in your job, which was huge for me... it sounds like you are aware of the flexibility you have but I wonder if you could be even more creative with it. It may be worth reading the book because there are a ton of examples of creative schedules. 

    Hunt Gather Parent by Michaeleen Doucleff - looking at how parenting happens in other cultures and the value of involving kids more in daily life. This was another one that was helpful for me to reframe the way I spend time with my toddler daughter. Like, I don't have to be playing with her to be spending time with her. I also allow myself to think of just being with her as spending time with her--oftentimes I will do my own project (reading, housework, a craft, etc.) while she works on an art project or puzzles in the same space as me. We engage with each other but each do our own "parallel play" so I get things done AND feel close to her. It also shared some good evidence-based reasons why kids spending time with non-parents in groups can be beneficial for them. 

    Burnout by Emily and Amelia Nagoski - exploring evidence-based reasons for why we feel burnout and how to effectively manage stress (and why the stereotypical notions of "self-care" through spa days and skincare regimes don't really work to manage long-term stress). Again this was a super-useful way for me to reframe why I feel pulled in so many directions and focus on how to relieve stress, which makes me better at managing my time.

    I also find talking with other working moms to be helpful. Even though we all value our jobs (whether for personal fulfillment, saving the world, providing for our family, etc.) there are always challenges. In so many ways we are operating in an unnatural environment so relying on your village to commiserate guilt-free and share feelings is also super valuable. 

    So much of what you wrote I relate with.

    Is part-time consulting in your current field an option? I started doing a side contract for about 10 hrs/quarter. After a year, I built enough of a relationship with the client that they gave me about 10-20 hrs/wk. I added a couple of others clients which give me 5-10 hrs/wk. I don't consider myself entrepreneurial at all, but I've ended up building my own business doing similar work that I was doing full-time previously. I don't earn as much as I made full-time, of course, but there is substantially less stress in the household when childcare is closed, camp starts an hour later, or unexpected things happen. I am no longer folding laundry or chopping vegetables while on work calls, and that's huge. We don't have family in the area and my partner travels about 1-2 weeks a month, so me being more present for my kiddo is invaluable.

    If not part-time consulting, think about what other creative ways you can still be intellectually engaged and not lose all the hard work you put into your career while still being the parent you want to be. It doesn't have to be black and white, full-time or stay-at-home, there are options in between.

    Do not leave your job! I would describe myself as similar to you (not enterprising, struggle without structure, semi-specialized job) and I have found re-entry (after losing that job years ago) to be incredibly difficult. Do not recommend. If I were in your situation, I would try to find a job based on your current experience that would allow you to stay in the workplace, but with fewer hours. Or, maybe you can negotiate with your current great job to move to a more flexible schedule, 4 days a week or shorter days. 

    Stay-at-home parenting has no structure at all. It is made up - 100% - of random and endless tasks on behalf of others that no one notices or recognizes unless they go undone. Yes, there is a unique opportunity to connect with your children during the extra time in the day. But the result of one parent having that extra time is that the parenting in the household becomes unbalanced between partners. Additionally, the kids often end up with a perception of the stay-at-home parent as being a kind of punching bag that they don't see in a position of respect in society. It feels very last century. 

    If you can do it, I would try working part time. It sounds like financially you can, but your company also needs to agree. I have been working anywhere between 80%-20% since my first was born 15 years ago (currently working 50%) and it makes life so much easier and more enjoyable. I have the intellectual stimulation and contact with colleagues, but also time for the kids and for me. I know that I am very fortunate to have a work situation that is really flexible and understanding and many companies don't. Perhaps you could find another similar job that would be OK with you working part time? (I work for UC which is generally more flexible than for-profit companies.) I tried not working at all but found it increased my isolation and I didn't fill my days with fun projects. I just got more stressed and depressed.

    I am sure you will get many responses, but I will throw my experience in for your reflection.  It is so hard to find something that gives one a personal sense of satisfaction, and it is great that your current position gives you that.  I had a job I loved, a husband on the fast track to sr. executive a small child I loved more than anything, and a household that was a wreck (that impacted my family).  I chose to get domestic help and keep my job.  I was able to enjoy my daughter when I was with her and she learned that it was not just mom who could provide for her. I was able to not loose myself and since I was able to outsource all the domestic work to keep the house going (I never liked it anyway), it was the best of all worlds. It was humming along fine for 4 years till it was time for her to go to kindergarten.  That is when I moved too consulting and was there to support her fully.  Being expected to sit still for hours, navigating the social structure of a large class and having to prescribe to more of a schedule was hard for her and I did not want her in before and after care.  It was very difficult giving up my job and when I reentered the work force full time 5 years later it was HARD!  That was when I lost myself and became "so and so's mom" after being me for so long.

    So what I want you to ask yourself is am I still going to be able to carve out time away from my family to be me, and will I be resentful for giving up something I truly enjoyed and got satisfaction from?  Being a full time mom is really, really hard.  Harder than outside jobs for sure.  Realistically once you leave it will be hard to return.   Good luck!

    I think you should give yourself grace. It sounds like you are capable, loving and generous. I went through that phase and now my kids are a bit older and it does get easier. My recommendation since you love your work and your family is to defer or pay for all the other things that steal your time. When my kids were really young I had my housekeeper come twice a week (now once a week). She does the laundry. I started services like Farm Fresh to You and asked other working moms for other ideas for streamlining. This chapter is temporary. You’ve got this! 

    I was in your position 37 years ago except that I quit to stay at home. Our income was cut in half and I was looking at never having my dreams in life fulfilled.  But I was in total love with my child, who I could see needed me, and I never looked back.  I was unable to work in my field years later, partly because we moved overseas and partly because I had not kept up, and was in a field that really required being present more than 10 hours a day at the office.  But I came to see that I was doing the work I wanted and was meant to do, and (dare I say it?) the work that God wanted me to do.  Result:  My husband and I both have an excellent and close relationship with our son.  He is a success in his chosen field, and now has a son of his own (whose mother works).  He's an excellent father in my opinion.  I have zero regrets, and never really did.  To me, your stress and sadness might indicate that some kind of change is needed. And I admit that I'm one of those who believe a mother belongs with her children. You're there to notice what no one else does, and act on it if needed.  You're there to be the background from which they emerge and face the world. 

    Hi There,


    I don’t have words of advice, but just wanted to reach out and say it felt like I could’ve written this post! I don’t have a toddler (only a 9 month old) but I am dealing with similar feelings of uncertainty and being pulled in two different directions and as a family we are struggling to find balance. We keep “waiting” for balance to come around the corner. 

    Long story short you’re not alone! I often wonder how people manage and if I’m the only one!   


    Best, Maria 

    Based on what I understood from your post it sounds like you should hire more household help so you don't have to make dinner, do as much cleaning, can have more quality time with your kids. This should cost less than not working. It sounds like your job is flexible and you could schedule more time to spend with your kids, you just need to outsource some of the other stuff. 

    Like the previous poster, I would highly recommend talking this out with a therapist. I had a similar job situation when I had my baby. I decided to quit my job to stay home with the baby for multiple reasons, but not without a lot of tears and many sessions of therapy going over my reasons for working vs quitting. I also expect I will find a similar job to the one I had, as I have seen several options come up in the last few months as I am beginning to think about going back to work and starting to browse the job boards. Ultimately, I believe I made the right choice and have zero regrets, but, I will say that SAHM momhood is not necessarily less stressful or sad than being a working mom. It is more like, the things you are stressed and sad about change. It is definitely worth a few sessions of therapy to discuss and go deep on! Being that your kids are already in daycare/school, it may be better for all of you to try to prioritize lightening the household tasks and deepening your connection with your kids with the time you have, without leaving your job first, to see if that helps.

    A really great resource that I have turned to so many times is Nurtured First. The creator is a psychotherapist with experience working with disadvantaged communities and kids with autism/adhd, and she has a very holistic approach that is more action based than scripted. They offer a lot of great, free tips on insta and their podcast, and paid toolkits and courses on the website that prioritize connection with your kids, regardless of whether you are a stay at home or working parent. Right now they are running a special on their back to school bundle, which might offer some ideas for you to make the most of your time with your kids with the time you have. They are also based in Canada, so their paid resources are actually cheaper for us because of exchange rates. 

    Stay in the work force, stay engaged, stimulated, fulfilled which it sounds like your career does for you. My conclusion to these feeling that you describe so well, was the grass is always greener. To stay connected to my son I rented library books about working moms which he loved. Reading the children’s books to him he learned I’m always with him, he is always with me. I focus on quality time over quantity, thanks to my therapists advice. I asked my employer if I could work 4 days a week which gives me 3 days with my son (yes waste of money missing a day of childcare but sounds like you can afford it and your employer would be open to this idea too). I live with a little more mess; I ask friends for help with grocery shopping. Get creative. Your kids will see your resilience and your work ethic. Also who knows how many hours stay at home moms spend phones scrolling/posting while their kids watch you tube (I expect some push back on this) or feel resentful because they “gave it all up” to stay home with their kids. It takes a village and I think this should extend to childcare providers. Good luck!

    Hi toddler mama, right there with you in the struggle and have two under four as well. 

    This is THE challenge for our generation of women,  that misplaced thought that there might be a balance point where we are less stretched/ stressed/ more present/ more fulfilled… if only!

    I know you know this, but it’s clear there’s no winning answer. Maybe just the best one for you right now. And then forgive the rest, the mess— it will change! 

    Especially if you are lucky enough not to have to let finances dictate your decision, I would suggest getting really quiet with yourself— or getting in good communication with a therapist or coach— and think through what feels the sweetest to you, what you could be most peaceful with, or if there is a different middle ground that might serve you and your family right now. 

    Could you be more happy giving more of your time to your kiddos? Do you need work to stay on an even keel? Could you be more part time? Experiment with leave? Let go of fear of what coming back to work might feel like if you let it go? What if it was a short year or two commitment?

    Loved this May NYT essay on the matter— maybe it will spark something.

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/01/opinion/equivalents-radcliffe.html&gt;

    I’ll pull out the nut for you:

    “Olsen ‘longed for an impossible life, one in which she could devote adequate time’ to both her work and her children, Doherty writes.’

    As I read Olsen’s words, I thought about all of the mothers I’ve spoken to over the years, both as a journalist and as a friend, who acutely feel the conflict between mothering and all other aspects of life. They often take that feeling of tension as a signal that they’re doing something wrong — working too much or not hard enough. They don’t always think about the financial or structural issues holding them back. They’ll often see hurdles as personal failures and feel guilty about whatever they think they are giving short shrift.

    But what if they accepted the tension as eternal? What if there will always be some feelings of frustration and exhaustion bumping up against the feelings of joy and everlasting love?”


    Happy to bounce ideas further too!

    My heart goes out to you!

    But my vote would be to keep your excellent job and try to reduce the hours to 30 per week rather than 40.

    Good jobs are hard to come by.

    The preschool years are very labor-intensive for the mother who has a job. Our society does not make it possible to cover all the bases.

    Can you pay someone to do chores? Have healthy dinners delivered?  

    Can the kids come home at 3 p.m. and have some 1:1 time with you? 

    When our kids were that age, I had a less-than full-time job. My husband would not agree to hire household helpers, so we lived in a messy house and ate a lot of take-out. 

    But I loved my job, and, now that I am retired, I love my pension from the UC Retirement System.  The kids turned out fine, and our marriage is happy.

    Hi, I'm 60 now and have young adult kids. You didn't mention whether you have asked to work part-time at your current job. If you haven't, you should!! I worked 50% time when my kids were little, then 75%, then 100%. This was great for me and our family (and I'm very privileged that this was possible for us financially).

    If going part-time is not an option, you might want to hold on for a few years. I found that when my kids turned 6 they were much more independent, and I could get (some) work done while they were home with me. And then I also did some work at night after they went to sleep.

    Hi! I just wanted to chime in quickly. I recently found myself in a similar situation, with a 1.5 and 3 year old. I ended up electing to quit my job and stay home with them, as I felt that I would always regret not spending time with them in their young years. I felt like once my son started school, I'd never get this opportunity again. So far, I've been so happy that I made this choice. I was worried about the structure element, too, but I've found that we have made our own structure/schedule, and it is working really well. Good luck with your decision, and remember that whatever the right decision is for you personally, is the right decision for them, too. 
    One thing I did also consider is that I didn't feel like my children were sitting at daycare thinking 'I really wish I was home with my mom.' The idea of staying home made ME feel better, but I don't think it was something THEY were necessarily missing out on if that makes sense. So if part of your consideration is guilt, I think you can let that aspect go. 

    I really feel for you, I was in the fortunate position of not having to work outside the home when my kids were young (not like we were living the lush life, we had no $$ for vacations, 'extras' or even college savings, but we were just able to pay the bills on one salary). I totally hear your work concerns, and they are all 100% valid. But here's the thing, your kids are only little once, and it all goes by so fast.

    There's no guarantee that staying on the job means you'll always have one. I have several friends in their late 40s and early 50s that worked all through their kids school years and still got laid off or downsized and now are really struggling to find work as 'older' women. 

    It sounds like your gut is telling you your kids need you, and I felt that way too. I get that not everyone has the luxury of this choice, but if you do, I say, go for it. Our kids are almost all grown now and they are amazing. The time I had with them was beyond precious, and I know I was so fortunate to have been able to be there for them. If you want to stay active, volunteer! Be a room parent, sit on the school board, there are a ton of ways to keep your mind engaged and build community outside of work. I was busier when I was not working than I am working now. While some of the day to day is tough, it was by far the best time of my life, and without question the best job I ever had. Good luck to you!

    Love the advice already shared: “Are you stressed because of all the stuff you feel you have to do that isn't spending time with your kids? Household management, etc.? If that is the case, then you should stay in your job, and your family should use its money to outsource the household management. That way, when you are off work, you can 100% just be there with the kids.”


    If this is the case, get more regular housecleaning.  Hire someone to prep and cook meals, grocery shop, do household management. Use a service like Honey Homes to deal with household repairs and maintenance. 

    Can you get more flexibility in your workplace? Move around hours, work from home, etc? 

    It sounds like you love your job, so I would try everything first to stay working. I’m a stay at home parent and - while I value the time with my kids - I miss working. 

    I worked at a big law firm when my oldest was younger, and I had a much more flexible schedule with my younger one. I still felt busy and overwhelmed, but spending more of my time with my kid and less at work did make me feel less "guilty" (I'm not sure it's the right word, but sounds like you know the sentiment) about not seeing my kids. In general with the kids, I have always regretted more the decisions that stopped me from spending time with them and not regretted giving up other things. Not because every moment with them is a joy (definitely is not), but because it feels important to me personally to spend time with my kids. Someone told me once that work will never love you back, which is true. I think different people have different values around this, better to make decisions based on your own values.  

    FWIW I did not find it at all hard to take a year off and then have good work fall into my lap, especially because I didn't need it to be a full-time job. My husband was stay at home dad to my oldest when I worked at the law firm, and he also seemed to transition easily back into the workforce. (He works in IT. First went back part-time now full.) It's hard to self-evaluate, but my opinion is this worked for both of us because it is actually quite difficult to find good workers in any field, so if you are good there will always be work for you once people realize that. Especially if you already have a solid resume, which I definitely did after spending ten years at the law firm. 

    My husband for different reasons was thinking about leaving a job that was otherwise perfect to be around the kids more. Rather than leave he had a good and open conversation with his employer and they found a solution that works for everyone. You might want to try having a similar convo with your work.

    It’s amazing that you have a job that you love, and at the same time I totally get the feeling of missing out on time with the kids when they’re small. I had a very similar experience, but with less flexibility as the main breadwinner. Luckily my husband was freelancing and flexible, so it made sense for him to do a lot of the stay at home parenting, which he enjoyed and was good at. We did have our older toddler in a small in-home daycare, but it was minimal, and when our provider was suddenly unable to remain open at the same time as I was on maternity leave for kid number two, I was unexpectedly in charge of both kids. (My husband leaned more heavily into the freelance at that time). And I was surprised how much I enjoyed it!  And I was sad to go back to work. Which, again, made the most financial sense for my family. I had a nice long (for the states!) maternity leave, and when I went back it was part time for the first three months after each maternity leave. So that helped. But I was sometimes still jealous and sad, and just wanted more time with them. I wound up using vacation time for regular shifts volunteering at their various schools as they got older. 

    This may be all way too much info. But I wanted you to know you’re not alone in this. It’s normal. And it’s time to get creative! What seems like the best option in your situation is to cut back on your work time. That way you’re still plugged in, just not as much. Can you negotiate to 50% time for the foreseeable future? This time when they’re small is precious. You’re in the enviable position of having some decent choices. I would not fully get out of the workforce as I agree that getting back in, unless you’re super motivated, can be challenging. Keeping a foot in the door (to me at least) feels much easier. And I have always wanted my kids to know that having both parents work was normal. Just as it’s normal to have a stay at home parent. But you love your job. That’s important! My kids are now teens, and we parents work full time now. But we’re glad we figured out ways for one of us to be not full time for several years back then. It’s not always easy. But can be worth it! Good luck figuring things out. 

    I had two kids in 20 months and decided to pause my career and don’t regret that decision to this day (they are grown ups now!)

    It is just time that you will never, ever get back and if you can afford it (sounds like you can) I would personally recommend it.

    However- please note it is exhausting!  Going into a job is actually easier for many but you wont feel continually torn, pulled in different directions, guilty etc.

    Regarding re-entry. I started back part time when my kids were 4 and 6. Part time was actually ideal as I was ready to do something that was not completely kid centered. 

    I think that many companies are getting less judgmental toward  women or men who have been out of the workforce to raise families. 

    Good luck.

    Hi! I hope it helps you if I speak to my own experience as a SAHM (a term I hate, TBH—I generally call myself a full-time parent, which feels more accurate than “stay-at-home.”) Like you, we’re incredibly fortunate that my partner’s income is enough to keep us afloat, so even though a second income will be welcome when it happens, it has been a viable choice for me to be a full-time parent while our kids are young. When our first was born, I had just gotten my graduate degree, but I didn’t have enough time to actually enter the workforce before our kid’s birth. Then, once our first was well transitioned into school, our second was born, so I started the full-time parenting clock all over again, and it’s now been 8 years since I obtained my degree (that I’ve never actually used for paid work). My kids are now 3.5 and almost 8.
    It’s hard to summarize how I feel having made the other side of the choice you seem to be facing, but I’ll try.
    It’s true that your kids are really little only once. In that respect alone, I will never regret that I’ve gotten to have this time with them. I will always have been there in their most dependent and most formative years, and I think that has been both really good for them and has also kept me really… honest about my parenting. I don’t know if “honest” is quite the right word, but what I mean is that my kids have really SEEN me as a parent, day in and day out—capable, frustrated, patient, impatient, playful, exasperated, joyful, all of it. During school breaks or when each of the kids was too little for school, we often spent entire days together, from wakeup to bedtime, with all of the mundane errands and negotiations and meltdowns and apologies and hugs that a single day entails. I got to participate in a parent-teacher preschool coop with my first kid, and am now doing it again with my second; it’s an invaluable opportunity to participate in the life of my kids’ preschool, and many working parents don’t get to do it. I get to become close friends with my kids’ friends’ parents, some of whom are also full-time parents and are available for after-school play dates where we grownups talk while the kids play, etc.; many of our current closest friends are fellow preschool and elementary school families, because unlike my working partner, I’ve actually had time to form relationships with other school families.

    My kids don’t spend a full grownup’s workday at school or in someone else’s care; they do play dates instead, or come home and chill after school, or we go on hikes, or run errands where they get to see that household stuff doesn’t get done by magic elves. (The downside being that I do have to run errands with the kids in tow, which is sometimes fun and often not fun.)


    Full-time parenting has kept me humble. It’s brought me an immense amount of joy and pride. It’s brought me to my knees. It is hard, hard, hard work. It is definitely not for everyone. Many days, it is not for me. And on many other days, it’s the thing I will always be most grateful for.

    It is also incredibly demeaning that it is unpaid work. I’ve often thought about updating my resumé with “Full-Time Parent” as my current job, with all of the actual duties enumerated, for the next time I need to present my resumé to a potential employer. As long as full-time care work is unpaid, it will be undervalued—by everyone!, including by your own co-parent, unless you remain REALLY vigilant about this not being the case. There’s just no getting around how unequal the emotional/financial balance becomes when one parent does paid work and the other does unpaid work.

    I’m looking forward to doing paid work again in a year or two; I’m looking forward to bringing in income, and spending concentrated time doing work that doesn’t revolve around care of my kids. I will never get back the professional opportunities I’ve lost. I will probably need to be creative around self-directed projects, freelancing, etc., rather than trying to reenter the workforce through a more traditional route (which I know isn’t an option for a lot of folks); again, it helps that my partner’s income can keep us afloat even if I don’t fully recover professionally.

    The opportunity cost can feel so high, no matter which way you go. I guess my advice is to choose, and then to go into your choice wholeheartedly, giving yourself every chance to appreciate the great gains and losses of this time in life. Good luck, fellow toddler parent!!!

  • We (my husband and I) are feeling tired and stretched thin. I can’t tell if this is just “how it is” as parents of a toddler or if there are things we can/should being doing to better support our wellbeing.  

    Full disclosure - we are in our first daycare cold and flu season (baby was with a nanny last year) and have been hit hard. Currently at the tail end of 3 separate illnesses including COVID) in 6 weeks. I have caught everything our 19 month old has gotten. It’s been brutal! Sharing this because maybe this is clouding how I feel. 

    Some info about us -
    We both work full time, demanding careers. Dad (35) works in venture capital (not an investor) and mom (37) is a tenure track faculty member at a research intensive university. One set of grandparents (both age 75 and are not together) nearby but both still work full time. They are very much in our lives but don’t do any childcare. Toddler is in a daycare we are very happy with. 

    All this said, we are both literally exhausted every single day. Our baby has never slept well. He napped for only 30 minutes at a time until 8 months old. Now sleeps through the night maybe 3-4 times a week. Gentle sleep training got us to that point. With recent sicknesses, sleep has been very hard. Toddler often wakes up for 2-3 hours in middle of the night. We take turns managing wakeups but recently started having one person sleep downstairs so they can have a night “off”. Then we switch. Day care naps are good , home naps are a crapshoot (could be 1 hour or 2). 

    Most nights, we finish bath and bedtime and collapse on the floor. Weekends we usually do one family outing together and then take shifts so each person can get some rest (e.g., mom takes toddler to park before nap, dad gets free time then). But still, every Sunday night we feel like death. 

    We have a bi-weekly house cleaner. We spring for a few hours of weekend childcare sometimes. But even with all that we are dragging. 

    Our boy is the light of our lives-  he’s funny, smart, loving. He’s also spirted and an energizer bunny. He’s brought us more joy than we could have ever imagined. We want to have a 2nd but both feel completely daunted. 

    Hence why I’m here asking for advice! How can we structure our lives so that we don’t feel like we are in survival mode all the time? As my husband said the other day -“it feels like we are doing something wrong!”

    Hugs and empathy for you mama. It's so hard. I couldn't even consider a second until my first was two, because I couldn't imagine being more tired than I already was. Now we have an almost 2 and almost 6 year old, and while we're still tired, it gets better. The two-full-time careers thing is a grind, I don't think there's any escaping that, but it will get easier as your kid gets older. The first winter season at daycare is the worst. It just sucks. It gets better. 

    Hello! Mother of two here. One of the most helpful things I've heard is 'it feels hard because it IS hard.' It doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong. This 'sick season', especially, is really, really tough. However, one thing you did not mention and I have found makes a BIG difference in my energy levels, is my diet/hydration. If I minimize my sugar intake and make sure to eat protein/nutritious foods instead of just snacking and mindlessly eating, then I have loads more energy. Same with drinking a TON of water. (This is not to say I do this all the time, I am only human after all! But I always feel so much better when I am very mindful of my eating/drinking habits.) Just remember, it is a tough season- both toddlerhood, and winter- and it will pass! 

    Unfortunately it's totally normal, and the first cold season in daycare is HARSH.  It gets better in subsequent years though!

    Both me (40) and my husband (also 40) work full time with minimal grandparent help and my husband is also a startup founder so he's gone a lot. We just had our second child in may and our first is nearly 4 now, and I can tell you that we are tired ALLLLL the time.  It sounds like you're doing all the things we've been doing to make things 'better' - from the weekend care (though ours is a regular nanny who takes her for 4 hours on one weekend day every weekend), to alternating shifts, and arranging things so each parent gets a 'night off'.  You're doing the best you can - Unfortunately, little kids are just exhausting.  One thing that does help - organize outings to the park or other places with other families from daycare. Then you get the benefit of 'distributed parenting'.  The benefit of this approach gets even better as the kids get a little older.  Around 2.5-3ish is when I started seeing the greatest benefit where the kids started playing together instead of demanding 1:1 parent attention all the time.  Sadly, a state of fatigue is 'normal' until the kids get to elementary school or so from what I hear... then the kids have different issues. 

    For having the second child:  a postpartum doula was super key for me, and mine helped set the baby's sleep patterns so she's a good sleeper.  Right now, I currently have a 'mother's helper' in the evening who picks up my baby from her daycare and brings her home, helps occupy the older one while I eat and put the baby to bed, and then cleans up the kitchen and meal preps for us.  It's super helpful for days where my husband is traveling or working late.  The other thing, honestly is embracing additional screen time.  The older one gets to play PBSkids games while I put the baby down when I'm by myself. It wouldn't work otherwise.  

    To be sure, there's always a certain amount of exhaustion inherent in parenting little children. But in my experience, sleep is key -- it sounds like you aren't giving your body the time it needs to recuperate and repair itself from the illnesses you've been through and the general wear and tear of being a parent. I know the discussion surrounding sleep training can be fraught, but I literally cannot imagine being up for hours in the middle of the night and then working a full-time demanding job. I'd recommend you sleep train the kid. It's gonna be rough (it was for us, with both kids), but worth it in the end. Some kids don't need help learning how to sleep through the night, and some do -- ours did, and were happier kids once they mastered that skill. You'll be amazed at how much better everyone feels once they're getting the sleep they need. Good luck!

    Both of my kids went through a phase for about a year when they were sick all the time. (First big exposures to outside germs.) Luckily, after that their immune system‘s really kicked in and it’s been much easier this year. I also got almost every cold, and would take several weeks to recover, and it was very exhausting. Hopefully this is the only truly rough cold season your child will have as they get all their first exposures out of the way.

    it helps me with my high energy boys to do activities outside of the home as much as possible, ideally outdoors. In general I keep my expectations low and my plans realistic. Strict sleep training has made a big difference. Encourage your child to play independently and don’t feel the need to rush to their side for every whine or cry immediately (unless they are hurt of course). If you need to be indoors, long bubble baths and popsicle baths kill a lot of time. My husband and I take turns with nighttime and morning routines and cleaning. None of this is a perfect solution, but I hope some of these things are helpful. 

    This was our life, except we had two babies. It gets better! By about age 3, they start catching fewer illnesses. 

    Wow, never has a post resonated so much with me. I am the mother of a 3.5 year old, and my husband and I are also always exhausted. We are both older parents, so that may be part of it (I am 45 and he is 54). My husband works full time and I work part time and my daughter is in full-time day care. Neither of us have parents who can help us and babysitting is very expensive. I keep thinking that maybe I have chronic fatigue or long COVID because of the level of exhaustion. But my husband, who is a physician says our exhaustion is just because we have a toddler. Ha. Only thing I could suggest is getting a regular sitter to help for one morning or afternoon on the weekends to give you a break. 

    I feel your pain! Our 2nd child is 2, does not sleep through the night, and wakes up at 5AM. Right now he's waking up once per night but sometimes he wakes up 3 times per night and it can take an hour+ to get him back to sleep. His energy is insane. We thought our first had a lot of energy, which he did, but our second has also always been extremely mobile early on and climbs everything, including up onto the dining room table daily. He is very strong willed and challenges us constantly. If he had been our first born, I would have been terrified to have a 2nd! Of course you never know how your kids are going to turn out and this is not research based, but I don't know that I have ever met parents who describe both of their children as quite so extreme. There's usually an "easier" or more calm kid, or at least maybe by the time the older one reaches a certain age, things start to calm down with them b/c they're more in control of their emotions. It's definitely hard with our 2nd child being the more challenging one as we don't have the same energy or dedicated 1:1 time to focus on just him, but we both always knew we wanted 2 kids and I'm very happy we did. I really can't imagine life without our challenging, but hilarious 2nd wild-child.

    One thing that stands out to me is that both of your jobs sound so demanding. My cousin is a professor and her husband is a chemist. They have two kids who are on the calm and quiet side and both sleep very well, but they are still completely exhausted. My job is busy but it's extremely flexible and understanding when it comes to family. This is a huge factor to helping me through every single week. I know there's probably not a whole lot that you can change in that area, but I can imagine the stress of your jobs is contributing to your overall outlook.

    Cold/flu seasons are horrible. We got everything imaginable last season at the worst possible time, e.g. our son got Covid the week before his 2 week break at school and ruined Xmas. It is SO exhausting getting sick back-to-back. I'm literally getting over being sick right now. It's so hard to parent when you don't feel well. My friends with K-5 aged kids say it really does get better when they're older.

    I don't have a whole lot of advice, but I don't think you're doing anything wrong. If your jobs can be at all flexible, take advantage. If you can afford help on the weekends, take it. I don't know how old your toddler is but I have seen positive changes in our older son starting at 4.5. He's starting to be able to control his emotions better and verbalize his feelings without hitting. Things are not perfect and are still hard but things really do start getting easier as they get older and can be trusted on their own more! Also, we are very hopeful that when the younger one is a little older the two kids will play more and more together which will make our lives easier, so that could also be motivation to have another.

    Hang in there!

    You are not alone and I feel doing nothing wrong…I find it truly is as exhausting as you feel. My kids are little older now and parts are easier and at night we sleep better most nights but it’s a constant juggle. And yes a series of back to back illnesses like that can take a family down physically and mentally! 

    One area you didn’t mention are meals. Is there a way to prep some meals ahead or simplify meals all around? Some nights of prepared foods or take out, a pizza/salad night, quick things like quesadillas and soup? My kids also love breakfast for dinner—once I allowed myself to not feel so guilty about not having more elaborate dinners that helped free up some time. 

    I’m so happy you are able to add in some couple time on the weekends—even once a month helps greatly. If helpful, we found it easier to go from 1 to 2 kids than 0 to 1. We were more used to the lack of rest and madness family life brings. 

    Hi there - first, just wanted to say it doesn’t sound like you are doing anything wrong! Every kid and every family’s situation is a bit different but your description sounds within the range of normal, albeit maybe on the tougher end - for now. Your child will build immunity and become more independent with time! Keep protecting each other’s free time, lower standards where you can (e..g. house cleaning, volunteering), etc. and at some point, it’ll feel less like survival. This was very similar to our experience so hope you can take some comfort in knowing you’re certainly not alone (common, even!) and that it will get better. We had a second kid and the jump from 0 to 1 was so hard but 1 to 2 was, in comparison, rainbows and butterflies. What got us through was having a “team mentality” between partners which it sounds like you already have, and building a community (daycare will help in that regard) of parents to help confirm what’s in the range of “normal” and at a minimum, feel better when you hear a parent vent about their issues which may be even harder than yours. Lastly, keep up with sleep training if it’s been working - growth spurts, travel, and sickness may lead to regressions but having the foundation of sleep was really helpful for our kids. Us being well-rested (most of the time) and the kids getting enough sleep feels like half the battle. Take care!

    I suspect you will get a LOT of responses on this and I hope most them emphathize and emphasize this is within the realm of normal and you are doing nothing wrong! The illnesses alone (which are so normal in first years of daycare) will exhaust you, and that's not accounting for the full-time work and general hecticness of having a toddler! Add in the inconsistent sleep and it's a recipe for exhaustion. I don't have a lot of specific advice other than encouraging the ongoing "shift work" where each person gets breaks and an uninterrupted night sleep. It does get better but that might take... years. With that being said, spring and summer should bring fewer illnesses and next respiratory season should have fewer illnesses now that he has more antibodies and as he gets bigger he may sleep better so there is light at the end of the tunnel! Hang in there! 

    I don't know how to structure your lives better, but it sounds exactly like my experience and I don't think you are doing anything "wrong" (although I remember having the exact same feeling ALL THE TIME). If I could go back in time I do think I could've had my first kid do more for themselves even at a younger age. Little things like getting themselves a drink, getting dressed, putting away their stuff. Sometimes they are painfully slow at it and there are a million things my kids just always looked to me to provide that they probably could've just gotten for themselves (especially my oldest). I don't think it would've eliminated the exhausting feeling of parenting a toddler while working full time. Humans are just not built to do that many things at one time, but one day you will wake up and your kid will be a couple years older and everything will feel so much more manageable.

    As to having a second, I spaced mine six years because the first one was so exhausting I couldn't even contemplate being pregnant let alone caring for another human in the house. But once we had him I realized that you are already maxed out no matter what and the kids seem to kind of normalize to what is possible. In retrospect I might have just powered through having two closer in time and been done with that phase sooner. The spirited ones are hard when they are younger but a lot of fun when they get more self-sufficient.  

    Hi! I'm guessing you will get a lot of responses like this, but just to add:

    YOU ARE DOING NOTHING WRONG.

    Thanks for speaking up about how hard it is. I've totally been you-the EXACT descriptions you shared about your exhaustion. 

    It is just SO difficult. Especially when you have a tough sleeper. Parents who have easy sleepers do not understand how difficult it is to be a parent to a tough sleeper.

    Two thoughts, in case it is helpful:

    1) It will get better. I promise!! It will. Two things absolutely will change with time. First, your next winter will be smoother. Your child is getting hit hard with germ exposure. It is BRUTAL. But it is building his immune system and you all will have a smoother fall and winter next year. It is hard to believe, but nothing, nothing is as bad as the first winter in a group care setting. Second, your child will get easier. Probably in about six months. I've found that with my two children, turning 2 is actually a huge relief and not the nightmare so many make it out to be. 

    2) There is nothing that you are doing right or wrong to impact your child's sleep. I don't know if this is helpful, because it does mean you just have to roll with it (SO HARD), but this is who your child is. My oldest was a TERRIBLE sleeper and still has some challenges (he's almost 7). His current sleep challenges are nothing compared to when he was a toddler, where his situation was very similar to yours. I made everything worse by agonizing over his sleep and stressing about how each night would go.

    It eventually improved, but not because of anything I did. Just time and growth.

    When he was about your son's age, I also thought I wanted another child but could not IMAGINE how to make that happen given my exhaustion. Again, things gradually got easier. We eventually got more and more time, better sleep and felt (semi) confident we could do it again.

    My children have a four year age gap, and the second is a MUCH better sleeper. Again, nothing we did-that's just how he is.

    Anyway, I just hope you can give yourself some peace and know it is not you. This is an unbelievably difficult season (especially with two working parents, it is so hard). Sending lots of encouragement your way and I promise, it will get better.

    Somewhat recently tenured research intensive faculty mom here with 2 littles.  I want to let you know you aren't alone! Academia already requires a ton of context switching and the cognitive load of adding caring for a small human on top of that is very real. We are also stretched very thin.  It feels manageable when the kids are sleeping through the night but rapidly becomes unmanageable when they don't, which is often.  The toll of the fall/winter illness season is high! I don't have any real solutions for you as it sounds like you are doing all the "right" things.  The two things I'd say is 1) I've heard it gets better and 2) if you can, master the art of letting things go.   Both of those pieces of advice are pretty trite, so feel free to DM me if you want to discuss further.

    You are doing nothing wrong and considering you are both working full time, not getting solid sleep, constant illness, keeping up with an energetic toddler, and not having a ton of support outside of daycare, it makes complete sense that you are exhausted. My husband and I have two (ages 4 and almost 2) and around the 1.5 mark with my first I started feeling a little more rested and more like myself...enough to accidentally get pregnant with our second. We weren't quite ready for another and the second kid has totally kicked our butts. Not because he's tough but because of all the same reasons you stated. We both work full time (probably more than that) and we don't get help from our families. Our kids are in daycare but when our kids are home on the weekend, we're not relaxing. Our toddlers are a lot of work! It makes me wish we lived in a commune sometimes so we had a "village" to help with the kids. Which brings up some ideas to make things easier. Find organized activites to do with your child on the weekends with friends who have kids the same age. We started doing ballet and soccer with my daughter. My friend and I are able to sneak in a mini coffee date while our daughters do ballet and we get to chat with our friends during soccer practice. Our kids are exhausted after and it feels nice to socialize/commiserate with parents who are at a similar stage in parenting as we are. Find family-friendly places to have dates if you're unable to get a sitter. We like Sideboard in Lafayette for a picnic on the lawn, Nido's Backyard (a Tres Rojas cocktail for the adults and quesadillas and guac for the kids), or wine tasting at family-friendly wineries in Healdsburg for special occaisions (Truett Hurst and Bella to name a couple). Trips to the farmers' market on weekends is a way to make grocery shopping more fun and enjoyable. We go on Sundays and then meal-plan around our seasonal ingredients for the week. I realize that all of this probably sounds like more things to add to your plate (that might exhaust you more) but when my kids are out and about, everyone has more fun, there are less tantrums, and they sleep harder. I think the biggest thing to keep in mind (and I'm sure you've heard this a lot) is that this is just the season of life you are in and it will be over before you know it. You will sleep again and your toddler will eventually become more self-sufficient. 

    Hi there, totally get it. We felt the same way. I've heard it gets better as the kids get older. Apparently that's why people have more than one kid. Once it gets better they forget how hard it was. There are a few things we did. I hope they help:
    1. The biggest issue is sleep - our daughter was always a pretty good sleeper but needed constant sleep training. The book Precious Little Sleep did an amazing job. Several other parents have recommended this book. We followed the advice from the book for the most part. Your biggest return-on-investment though is trying to fix sleep. We did also hire a sleep consultant - Randi Johnson - she's local in the East Bay and did an amazing job helping us train our daughter as young as 3 months old. Her rates are pretty consistent with how much sleep trainers charge.
    2. We have no family nearby, but when grandparents visit, we just ask them to watch our daughter while we rest or do chores around the house.
    3. Hiring a cleaner is a good decision. I would consider meal services also - three stone hearth, olivesf, tiffinbay are all good options. If you have friends or family who can do a meal train for you that would be even better.
    4. We do very simple groceries. I've got it down to 1.5 hours/week including travel, purchasing and putting them away. We have a running list of about 20 or so different meals that we just cycle through. So i always know what groceries to look for. It makes cooking easier too.
    5. I've heard from parents of older children that it doe get easier around 3-5 years old. Far fewer illnesses, they can eat by themselves and even help a little bit around the house if you start early enough.
    6. I work from home while my wife's work requires her to go into the office 4 days a week. I take on a lot of the chores around the house which i get done during lunch time or slow days at work. If one of you could work from home, that'll solve some of this.

    This was my family last year! You will get through it. Kids normally go through daycare sick as dogs the first year but the second year is better. I also feel that COVID hits the immune system so hard that your system is simply just more vulnerable to other things in the immediate three-ish months after your officially recover. One thing that I wish we would have done earlier... NyQuil. I know, controversial for a young body but same as your family, my second kid woke up at least three times a night, screetching, full of mucus.. when kids don't sleep they can't fight off infections, period. So I spoke with a friend who is a pharmacist about the situation and he said a small dose will help. It did. If we lived in a world that allowed families to not work during these early years without adversely affecting short and long term income I'd stay at home, but alas, that's not how the world works.

    Best of luck! 

    My husband and I frequently feel wiped, as you do, after bedtime and our daughter (2.5 yo) is an A+ sleeper who never wakes up. She did wake up at 5 instead of 7am the other day and it was so exhausting. I don’t know that you’re doing anything wrong. Only getting full nights of sleep part of the time with 2-3 hours awake is a recipe for never feeling “normal.” It is a big barrier for us to have a 2nd because we expect we wouldn’t get another kiddo who loves sleep this much. 
     

    There are things you can do if you can pay extra money to get back flexibility- we pay someone to cook a batch of meals for us each week. I also work 4 days per week and that day of alone time with childcare is amazing. Could your parents take your son for a morning every weekend or two so you guys could have more adult time together? An adult brunch out followed by some mindless solo time until you pick him up, etc. And also worth giving yourself permission to have weekends without any outings IF your kiddo is happy playing at home, or doing the minimum like a park trip instead of feeling any pressure to make weekends “special.”

    You don’t say how old your child is. Some of it is that it is tiring and little kids get sick a lot. We found that by age five kids are getting sick a lot less and that really helps. 
     

    Trading off with your husband is essential not just for sleep but making sure you and your husband both get some bona fide downtime for a couple of hours every week. Scheduling some help is a great idea. 
     

    so I think you are on the right track. It does also sound like you have to improve sleep routines so that little one is sleeping through the night more often. A sleep consultant is probably worth it by that age. 

    Sorry you are feeling so exhausted! I’ve felt like that before after getting hit with back to back illnesses. It is the worst and one of the hardest parts of being a parent. There’s no rest for the weary!

    As for, is it normal? I think it’s normal to feel exhausted sometimes, but not all the time. I think you have three factors making life extra hard right now. 1.You both have demanding careers 2.Your kid doesn’t sleep well/ doesn’t sleep a lot. 3.It sounds like you have family around, but not necessarily family help. For number 1, it doesn’t sound like this is a changeable factor. Number 2 could get better with time. Or you could try making some changes, and see what happens. I don’t want to bore you with a bunch of sleep advice because I assume you’ve heard it before :)

    For number 3, this could be just what it is, but have you asked either grandparent if they would be willing to take on a little more? There’s a huge potential here for mutual benefit for everyone - they get to bond with their grandchild, kid has fun, you get a break. If there’s a knee jerk reaction you have as to why this won’t work, take some time to examine that reason. In the family/ community vein, do you have good friends that you trust that have expressed interest in helping or hanging out with your kid more? Take them up on it! You can start slow by hanging out together before throwing them in the toddler deep end.

    Odds and ends- we do bath for my toddler every other night, barring extreme circumstances. I try to cook in leftover friendly batches, so I can avoid cooking every night. Toddler eats what we eat more or less. If something is a total fail they have cereal or something like that instead. TV, toddler watches some TV now. Keep it simple, repeat the hell out of whatever works, and try to find things that the whole family enjoys together. Hopefully some of this resonates! Wishing you easier times ahead.

    My two kids are now older but I still remember how tiring it was when they were toddlers and so dependent on us for everything. I don't miss the evening gauntlet of getting home, fixing dinner, feeding the kids, cleaning/bathing the kid and putting them to bed--all the while hoping that you will still be awake to have some adult time after they go down.  But at 19 months your kid should be able to stay asleep long enough for you to have some "you time."  The level of sleep deprivation that you are describing is more akin to the newborn stage. I advise that you locate a sleep specialist to advise you on techniques for having your toddler stay asleep. Your son being awake for 2 to 3 hours on some nights seems unusual and perhaps a specialist could suggest techniques to get him back to sleep or for him to self-soothe himself back to sleep. If nothing else, keep in mind that these phases will pass and before you know it, your son will be a teenager who will sleep in until 10am on weekends!

    Solidarity! I'm a parent of a 1 year old and 4 year, and I find parenting time exhausting. My partner and I also both work full-time, but even the after-hours (5pm to 9/10pm) feels like a slog. My 1 year old only sleeps decently because I co-sleep with them, I've never been able to get them to nap on their own. (They do nap in a stroller with nanny, but I don't have the magic stroller touch). It's rough when they're sick, but I invested in a floor mattress and a really nice pillow with neck support and arm rests, so I can sleep sitting up if it comes to that. I don't necessarily recommend co-sleeping since it means I don't get any actual alone time, but I think it's better for my personal sleep success.

    I've started asking our nanny to take the 1 year old for a few hours on the weekend or a few hours after the workday, and that time with the 4 year old gives me a break from the demands of a toddler. I love my toddler, but they require a huge amount of energy and constant supervision, with all the shenanigans they get into. (Oh, and they screech if mommy leaves the room..)

    As for having a second: my experience is that the 4 year old is decently independent at this point, it's really just the 1 year old that's the big energy suck. Sooo hopefully it gets better for you!

    I also had a toddler who was spirited and a poor sleeper, and I was pretty darn exhausted most of the time. If the wake-ups you are suffering are from illness, then that sounds grindingly hard but indeed will surely be temporary (the “constantly getting colds” phase doesn’t last forever—in our case maybe 6-10 months?). If poor sleep is more general (or becomes so due to the illnesses), then that’s something you can work on. For us, the book The Happy Sleeper provided ideas that improved things significantly. If that doesn’t add anything new, then I guess I can simply offer some hope by saying that my kiddo didn’t sleep through the night more than once in a blue moon until a few months past 2—and then sleep became really easy, and has remained so as he approaches 7. (Once we had a second kid, life became pretty inherently exhausting for another couple years—in our case the second was an easy sleeper, but daytimes were hard, as our older kiddo had a really hard time accepting the loss of our exclusive attention. Still, if you want another hopeful note, we have finally made it to a more manageable (and fun!) place, and having our second child definitely feels worth it).

    Yes. This. Is. Normal.

    In fact, with local family and house cleaners, I’d say you are better off than most.

    There are local parent groups. Locate. Educate. And get outside your bubble. Perspective is imperative to understanding your particular situation. Your feelings are real, but we are all going through it. We used to party until 4am in NYC and sleep until 12noon. Parenthood doesn’t hold a candle to our previous life. Embrace the change and accept the exhaustion. Your previous life is no more. No one tells you this when having kids. We ❤️ them to pieces, but our old lives are - in the words of JT - Dead and Gone.

    Oh I feel for you. Hang in there, it does get easier. It didn't get easier for us until our older one turned 4. There were less tantrums and more independence so became emotionally and physically less difficult. It's hard with all the illnesses in the winter. Once they build some semblance of an immune system against colds it gets slightly better. I just got the stomach bug from my son from his school and it was rough with multiple kids under 5 sick and the entire family sick. 

    My son is 24 now and I still remember 19 mos. as being the nadir. Well, except teaching him to drive; that was worse, but in a different way.  You sound like you have a good system, particularly the trading off so one parent can be alone for a few hours.  In my household, Dad did not enjoy taking the kid to the park, but was happy to take him on errands (even Costco!)  That got the errands knocked out and also got me some alone time.   Also, do you have any friends with similar aged kids? You can take turns - you watch theirs with yours, then they take yours.  That's also tough when everyone is getting sick all the time but at some point it might work.  

    I think the two key factors are (1) the kid isn't sleeping well and (2) the two full-time demanding jobs.  Consider hiring a sleep consultant to get the kid to sleep through the night.  I would really focus on this because if you can sleep normally on a regular basis it will change your life.  

    And I'm going to tell you something straight - if you decide to have another kid, you should both scale back at work.  Figure out a way to work part-time for your pregnancy and the first five years of your second child's life.

    I have two words for you, NIGHT NANNY. Hire a nanny for at least 4 weeks to take care of your boy at night so you can have a chance at a full night's sleep for an extended period of time. You have a large sleep deficit that will just get worse with your schedule of alternating nights taking care of your boy. If possible move yourself or your son apart so when he wakes during the night and the nanny is taking care of him, he does not wake you.

    Mom of three under 7 and tenured academic here. You’ve gotten some awesome sympathy and advice. I’d like to add a few briefs practical tips, with one overarching them: spend money on all the  periphery so you can focus on the best part—spending calm and joyful time with your kid:

    1. The prepared food section at TJ is your friend. Meal plan and keep that aspect simple (there will be time for exciting food again; now is not that time).

    2. Hire a sleep consultant and follow whatever regimen you’re happy with. We never did cry it out, but were still able to improve the situation dramatically. Also fantastic for the kids, better rest, lifelong healthy habits— Best $500 you’ll ever spend.

    3. If you’re like me, a decluttered home would greatly improve your mental space. A chaotic cluttered home can send me into a spiral of despair and physical exhaustion. Tackle that problem with a combination of assorted bins from Home Goods and a cleaner who also helps organize.

    I just want to second- 

    Yes this is totally normal!

    It is so worth it to hire a sleep/parenting consultant. It can be easier. 

  • TL;DR, seeking any sort of therapist who can help a parent with sensory issues stemming from childhood trauma. OT, talk therapist, whoever. Ideally in-person in the East Bay.

    CW: description of self-harm. 

    My husband is extremely triggered by our 15mo’s crying. IMO it's a normal amount of crying, she gets momentarily upset over random things like not being allowed to dig through trash, and when she's tired/hungry. Can usually be fixed with cuddles, which husband is unable to provide when he's triggered. She has a 30-min uncontrollable tantrum about once a month, usually when she has a short nap at daycare.

    He knows the trigger from his own childhood trauma, and he never ever takes it out on the baby or on me. He almost always leaves before he explodes. Tonight was actually the first time I saw him explode, and we've been together for 15 years. He's been punching himself in the face when he's overwhelmed by the noise, and headphones don't help much. Loop earplugs were recommended to us, but he says they don't work well. He's constantly sporting bruises around his eyes and he knows this can't go on forever. (He's been borrowing my makeup for Zoom calls at work...)

    He's been to talk therapy before, which really helped him unpack a lot of childhood things. He's still working through it and I know he's trying his best, but he needs immediate help with the sensory issues. He's done some research already but the therapists he's found have no availability. I wasn't sure if there was some kind of triaging system for someone who's actively hurting themselves (although not seriously). Any advice would be appreciated. 

    You may know this already on some level, but your spouse is well outside the range of normal on this and until he is much more solidly within the range, I am very uncomfortable with the idea of the three of you cohabitating. I do not think this is an issue that talk therapy alone could address. (I am not a doctor so I will leave it at that.) If you were my friend telling me this, I would advise you to take the baby and leave. You're already single-parenting...

    Look into EMDR therapy. It’s designed to work on past trauma And has proven very successful in the past. You’d need to find someone certified to do this. 
    Rather than take steps to desert your partner, try this first.

    good luck!

    I'm so sorry your family is going through this.

    IMO, the following methodologies will go to the heart of the complex trauma & address trigger-symptoms of dysregulaion. 

    For sensory issues along with trauma, Google SSP-The SAFE & Sound Protocol.  There are providers nationwide. It's based on polyvagal theory , the science of safety. Settles the nervous system again. 

    Integration with a trauma-informed & scientifically validated methodology of EMDR (Eye-movement desensitization & Reprocessing) or IFS (Internal Family Systems) are cutting edge for serious trauma.

    I'm not a therapist & learned about these in my own work of recovery. Proceed with care, because if there are serious attachment & abandonment issues there, there are "parts" that hold agenda with unresolved needs & they may become activated by separation from loved ones when they're in dire need & it may deepen their sense of inner isolation if they aren't feeling validated. In essence they're child parts (exiles) who are still stuck in the past & need compassion &as they hold so much distress & have other parts in the system that protect them from feeling all that pain again- the self-harm parts are firefighters in the system to manage the alarm bells. All parts have good intentions & are doing the only thing they know how until higher self shows them how.

    There's hope. 

    Take care.

    Medication can also help.  Fluoxetine (Prozac) is the first line treatment for PTSD -- it can do wonders sometimes.

    Hi there, this is a very sad and painful thing to hear. My partner had a really hard time (though not this extreme) with the transition to parenting, being startled excessively by loud noises, and managing aggression. It has taken years for his reactions to be modulated, so I know it may be hard to find a quick fix. One recommendation I have is to explore complex-PTSD to understand the trauma he's been through. 
    I've also heard that EMDR can help. 
     

    I hope you get support, too. This is a difficult time for you, as a new parent and a partner, so you deserve your difficulties to be acknowledged, too. 

    The type of therapy that has been clinically proven to help with distress tolerance and self-harm is called dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT). This is definitely an issue that talk therapy can address! Usually DBT is done in a group setting, with an individual and sometimes a family component as well. I can understand why self-harm seems scary to people who don’t understand why someone engages in it, but it’s entirely self-directed and a maladaptation to inner turmoil and pain. People can learn the skills to stop the behavior and redirect their thought processes. Many groups are meeting online now, so I wish you the best of luck!

    Not a doctor, this is all my anonymous opinion. I've been dealing with something similar since I was a teenager but which definitely got more intense when I became a parent. While I don't have a magic bullet, it may be worth it to look into an OCD diagnosis which could then be treated with medication until behavioral interventions can be more effective. (I also got some benefit from the book Brain Lock, available in a variety of formats.) In the meantime, as harm reduction, can he find a less destructive/visible way act out his impulses? I've had some success with squeezing an ice cube in my hand, which doesn't cause any lasting effects but which still hurts like hell right up until you stop.

    Self harm, much like parenting, is extremely complicated, and nobody's journey is exactly the same. I'm sorry the three of you are going through this and I hope you find all the strength and resources you need to come out on the other side.