Co-Sleeping with a Baby
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- Planning to Co-sleep - what do I need?
- Co-sleeping 3-month-old thrashing & kicking at 4am
- We want 4-mo-old in bed but not between us
- 6-month-old only sleeps lying on top of mom
- Co-sleeping 9-month-old sleeps very lightly
- Baby naps only while being held
- We Love Co-sleeping but Baby isn't sleeping well
- Co-sleeping with a baby and an older child
- Moving baby out of our bed
- Breastfeeding and Co-sleeping
- Safety Concerns of Co-sleeping
- More advice about co-sleeping
- Co-sleepers & Snuggle Nests (reviews)
Co-sleeping 3-month-old thrashing & kicking at 4am
June 2005Our 3 1/2-month old sleeps in bed with me and my husband. He does well until around 4:00 am (easily goes back to sleep after nursing, etc.). But starting around 4:00 am he becomes very restless -- thrashing and kicking his arms and legs. (At first we thought it was because he had gas, but we have discovered he thrashes regardless.) He seems to sleep through it all, but my husband and I have a hard time doing the same. This has been going on for at least a month. Does anyone know if this is common baby behavior? Has anyone been able to calm their baby's restless arms and legs? Or is it time for us to start transitioning him to his own bed?
My baby moved around quite alot as well at that age. We put her in a bassinet right next to the bed (or you could use a co- sleeper) which would minimize the disruption to your sleep. Good luck
Your post reminded me of a friend's infant - now 7 years old - who started to be a big thrasher around 5, 6 months. In that child's case, the child was diagnosed with sleep apnea and was I guess thrashing around for increased air. The baby's adenoids turned out to be big and partially blocked breathing. My friend described her baby as snoring, mouth breathing, and doing a kind of sucking, choking sound as well as thrashing. Just a thought. I think that an ENT doctor evaluates that sort of thing. P.S. The baby had her adenoids out and become a champion quiet, still sleeper. Good luck to you! Fredericka
It's normal for babies to move around when they sleep, particularly when they go through milestones. At this age your baby is becoming much more aware of the world around him, is getting control over his body and soon will start rolling around and sitting down, plus he may be starting to teeth. All these things disturb his sleep. Chances are that he'll go back to a quiet type of sleep for a while, only to be disturbed again when he reaches another milestone. In a few months, you'll have him crawling in his sleep! If his movements bother you and your husband, you should think of transitioning him now, when it's still easy. You could put a crib near your bed so you still have him close but he doesn't hit you. anon
One of our babies did the same thing--he's now 7 months and I'd say it hasn't been a problem since 4 months or so? I'm finding that with most baby-related ''problems,'' the simple answer is that you just need to wait and it will resolve itself! Genevieve
Three months is when we moved our daughter into her own sleeping space. We really liked the idea of having her in bed with us but nobody was getting any rest because she is so restless. It was hard - I missed having her right next to me! - but it was really good we did because we all slept better and she really likes being in her own crib now. good luck sleeping well
The same thing happened to us with our now 12 month old son when he was around that 3-4 months, so we began to swaddle him at naptime/bedtime and it helped a lot. We swaddled him until he was about 6 months and swaddling helped keep him asleep longer, and it also helped on the transition from our bed to his crib. Hopefully that will help you guys, good luck! Teresa
My baby began to thrash around at four months and I started to transition him to his crib at this time. For me, it has worked out just great, and my son loves his crib. If you aren't ready to start moving him out, you could try swaddling him when he sleeps with you and this might keep his movements down... lisette
Try swaddling your baby. It sounded kind of old-fashioned to me but it works and it is fine for the baby. One explanation (and instructions) can be found in Harvey Karp's 'Happiest Baby on the Block' book. Apparently there is a DVD version, too. Anon.
i have a 2 year old who has done this on and off forever. he's now transitioning to a toddler bed....i entirely missed the crib boat. my advice is you will all sleeep better if he goes in a crib. i wish i had taken my own advice. good luck
We want 4-mo-old in bed but not between us
May 2002Our 41/2 month old son has been sleeping in bed since he was born, (first baby) now he is strong and big 16lbs. and rolling so we need to figure out something else, but we don't know what. We need to have some personal snuggle time but the baby is always between us. We tried to get one of those bed rails so he could be on one side but our mattress is too big 15''... any suggestions- we were also told that co-sleepers are onle good for 17lbs or less? The bedis already next to wall - not good enough. The thought of a crib has come up but we still want him in bed with us and we don't think he will sleep alone. He has to fall asleep on one of us and sleeps on me most of the night after nursing. Help with ideas are really appreciated. Liza
We kept our son in bed with or near us for the first year, which we all loved, except for the part about the kicking, thrashing, sideways-sleeping little body taking up most of the bed. My solution was to take my sister's porta-crib [one of those miniature cribs where the sides fold in] and remove its 4th side, so that it became kind of a co-sleeper for big kids. I secured it around with a belt clamp, keeping the sides all snug. You can also use some c-clamps to secure it more snugly to your bed; ours was jammed between the bed and the wall pretty tight, so we felt it was safe. You can place a piece of board or cardboard beneath the crib mattress if you think the gap presents a problem. The crib's mattress was somewhat lower than our mattress top, but our son climbed up to us when he needed us and we were able to slide him over into the crib pretty easily too. It's so nice to just be able to reach over and comfort him - it worked really well for us. It did make it a lot harder to make the bed. Jean
Have you tried all different types of bed rails? We have a tall mattress too and finally found a brand (Safety First I think?) that works perfectly. It doesn't need to be really high off the bed-just enough to prevent a roll. I would not recommend the bed against the wall as baby can get wedged between the bed and the wall. I put my baby on the outside with the bed rail up and find she is more far more likely to roll towards me than she is to roll to the outside near the guard. Nicole
we had a lot of luck putting our son's crib, minus one side rail, right up against our bed. It functions just like a co- sleeper, but give us a lot more room in the parent's bed. he can roll over when he needs some milk or a snuggle and we can roll him back when he falls asleep again. Jolie
You could try putting your mattress right on the floor and adding a second mattress and extra bedding materials right next to it, to make a super-sized bed for all three of you!
Not only does this eliminate getting scrunched up when your kid squirms and rolls, but there is enough space for all of you to sleep soundly while enjoying the many sweetened benefits of the family bed. Plus, it makes for a great play area during the day!
A couple of our friends came up with this idea, and we have implemented it as well - our 18-month old is the most cuddly yet tossy-turny sleeper, and the double-mattressed bed is the most ingenious and simple solution. Enjoy! Nora BF
Before our babies could crawl, we took off one side of a crib and jammed it between our bed and the wall. We raised the crib mattress so it was level with ours. I know another family who attached a crib to their bed with bungee cords. Jennifer N.
6-month-old only sleeps lying on top of mom
July 2002Help- we have a real problem -getting worse every day- Our son whom is breast fed- on demand is not sleeping through the night. Not nearly, he is up every hour to nurse, granted he is teething -just cutting second tooth... first one was so painful for him. So he sleeps with us in our bed, but he insists on sleeping on my chest, that way he can nurse when he wants and it is right there... good for me- sometimes I sleep straight through. Lately I'm not sure if it is the teething or not he is so cranky during the night if I roll him off me to sleep by my side he wakes right up and screams, sometimes he sleeps next to me but he always wakes sooner than if hee were righr on top and if my husband tries to cuddle up to him he screams and if my husband tries to put him on his chest he screams bloody crazy. My husband is so sad. His not wanting my husband if he is not totally happy and wide awake thing has been going on for a month or more... he is so upset about it , he thinks I'm doing it somehow- am I?!
I think there may be a few things going on ,but they are all wrapped together now. We just got a crib to try to encourage independant sleeping but we haven't gone through the whole crazy srceaming yet. We put him down and when he wakes at midnight or so he comes in bed with us We are a little scared at what lies ahead- I'm afraid of traumatizing him if we suddenly change his sleeping arrangement- but I can't sleep well now that he is getting heavier- I'm afraid he will never sleep off of me....Our son is very aware and active he also dosen't really like to be down at all unless he is playing in a bouncy chair, play gym or saucer. I mostly carry him in a sling - or my husband would carry him too since he was born- he has had lots of contact. He is so use to it. he dosen't really like to stroll either he prefers to be slung around.
Please any advice on all or part of our problem- please don't be too harsh - this is our first child and we just want to love him and give him what he needs. any similar cases? Sorry to be so long winded! tired in Berkeley
It sounds to me that you give your child a lot of control. A child at 6 months doesn't need to be nursed at night anymore unless it's not gaining weight or is sick in any way. Spend a lot of attention with your baby at day time but at night he needs to sleep by himself. Maybe he can come to bed with you in the morning for nursing and cuddling but if he is not getting used to his bed now it will be even harder later on. He will cry a lot at the beginning but you can comfort by talking to him but don't pick him up. Walk in the room every 10 minutes or so to let him know that he is not alone. After a while walk in every 20 minutes. It might take a few days or even weeks. If you give in once you can start all over again because babies are smart. I did this with my 6 months old. She gets lots of attention during the day but the night is for sleeping. Your husband can also walk in the room to comfort him so he knows that dady is there for him too. I know that you always pick up a newborn when it cries but at 6 months should get more independent. Good Luck !! Alex
We had a similar experience with our son. He is now 22 months old and has been sleeping through the night since he was about 12 months old.
As for advice, I'm not sure what will work, but just hang in there, because ''this too shall pass.'' Sometimes the most important thing is knowing that other people are going or have been through the same thing. So, here is a snippet of our experience.
I also nursed on demand. Our son started teething at 4 months (first teeth appeared at 6 and continued pretty regularly each month -- it seems as if he was always teething.) He was really miserable teething (ear infections, swollen glands.) *** We used Tylenol/Motrin and a topical (anbesol or oral gel) quite regularly.
For the first 4 months he would never sleep in a crib or a bassinet. *** He just slept on one of us.
*** At about 6 months old he started sleeping (2-3 hours at a time) on the portable changing table from the pack and play (we put it on the floor next to our futon that was on the floor.) He also slept in his car seat sometimes.
*** At 7 months he decided that he'd rather sleep on the gimini mat (the thing with the 2 arches with toys hanging down.)
*** At 8 months he slept in the pack and play (4 hours at a time). He was sleeping through the night by 12 months.
He never got used to sleeping in a crib. The advantage is that when we travel, he never has a problem sleeping in the pack and play crib! We are in the process of switching him over to a toddler bed. Interestingly enough, he doesn't like it at all, but prefers the big bed in the guest room. So, such is life. That is his new bed. If that's where he wants to sleep, then so be it.
We hated when friends told us that their baby has been sleeping through the night since 18 hours old. During this time, my husband and I were always exhausted. We became late night TV watchers (we never watched TV before.) We fought a lot because we were always exhausted. We often slept in separate rooms so that at least one of us resembled a human being.
Our solution was to throw money at the problem... we hired a nanny and used lots of babysitters (sometimes we would just lock ourselves in our room and sleep when the sitter arrived.)
By the way, we now have a 6 month old daughter that wakes up every 2-3 hours....but alas, she at least stays in her crib without too much fuss ;-) cheers anon
My husband and I were in a similar situation with our baby awhile back, and so I know how difficult this can be, both emotionally and physically. Here are several suggestions that really turned things around for us;
1. Read the book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child by Marc Weissbluth. This was our biggest savior. He spends a lot of time talking about patterns of sleep in babies and how important it is that they get enough sleep, meaning sustained sleep. We realized that our baby needed to take better naps, and that would feed into better night sleep. Essentially, fussiness and irritability was due to sleep deprivation, and not teething or gassiness as we had thought. The book helped us figure out timing for putting the baby down to sleep, which helped to reduce crying. He is not against co-sleeping, and incorporates this into his book.
2. You might want to try swaddling your baby when you try to move him off your body. This helped for us as well, and we swaddled up to about 7 months. Also, you could put a heating pad, set on low and covered with one of your tee shirts under the baby when you move him off -- just be sure to turn it off as soon as you put the baby on. The pad will stay warm for awhile, and this may be comforting to him. Good luck! used-to-be-sleepless mom
I feel for you, but you have to help your baby learn to sleep independent of you. You can do it gradually without tramatizing the baby, too. I purchased a book about dealing with sleep problems. I read a book I bought on Amazon based on the recommendation of a dear friend who had the same problem. It is called ''How to Help Your Child Sleep Through the Night'' and it is written by two Berkeley moms whose husbands are pediatricians. They give excellent techniques for ''Ferberizing'' your baby with minimal trauma for you and your family. They give lots of details and step-by-step instructions for breastfeeding moms like yourself, too. I also breastfeed, and it was very tempting to keep her with me in bed, but that only makes things worse. Thanks to this invaluable book, my daughter began only waking once per night to nurse. I read it when my daughter was about 7 months old. She's 14 months old now and still wakes once a night to nurse, and everyone in the house is well rested. Christina
A couple of thoughts that might help you -- we've gone through a variety of similar things at some point in our 14-month-old's development; some easier, some not:
1) It turns out that once my son got used to sleeping in the crib, he sleeps much better there than in our bed. When he slept in bed with us, he woke every hour to nurse, or sometimes just to cry; when he slept in the crib, he slept for several hours without waking up. We started out putting him in the crib at bedtime and then taking him in with us when he woke; then we went to nursing him the first time he woke, getting him to be sound asleep, and then putting him in his crib; then taking him in with us the second time he woke, and so on, until he slept in his crib the whole night (I was never able to do the ''let 'em cry it out'' approach; I cried harder than he did!). This approach, though it took time, enabled him to sleep alone pretty well; though he still does feed once a night. But after I feed him, he curls up by himself in the crib and goes to sleep with no problem.
2) Kids go through the ''not wanting mom/not wanting dad'' thing as a regular part of growing up. For awhile, my son wanted only me (and his dad was sad); now he's going through an ''I want daddy'' phase. You haven't done anything wrong, nor has your husband. Kids just do that. Since you nurse him, and since he can smell your milk, he will probably want to be close to you at night, rather than your husband.
3) At about 5-6 months, we introduced my son to a ''blankie'' -- a little blanket (about 14 inches square) that was flannel on one side and satin on the other. It's small and light enough that there's no danger of suffocation; even sound asleep he's strong enough at his age to push it off his face. At first, I slept with it myself for a couple of nights so it smelled like me, then I started putting it down with him every time he went to sleep, and holding it against him as he nursed. He started pretty quickly to use it as a surrogate security object; he now grabs it and buries his face in it when it's time to sleep, and can also use it for comfort if he has hurt himself or is upset for some other reason. We actually have several, just in case we lose one...
If you love him and work with him, he will eventually grow out of all of this; but it does take some time and teaching. Karen
Your problem sounds hauntingly familiar, and you may be tired of hearing this, but IT WILL GET BETTER! Our 9-month old now sleeps through the night in her crib,and has for about two months. However, for the first six or seven months of her life, she was usually in bed with us by midnight, more often than not on my chest. And she, too, cried a lot if we tried to put her on dad. The most important thing for both of you to recognize is that this is nobody's fault! Breastfed babies are smart -- they know where the good stuff comes from. Plus, it was your body that sheltered the little guy for nine months, so naturally it feels best to him. In terms of what you can do to change the situation? We read all the books and quickly realized they didn't make sense for us. What I did was try to nurse her back to sleep sitting in a chair in her room when she woke for the first time. If she wouldn't go down, I took her to bed and put her next to me and nursed some more. Then she slept, and it was minimal effort to nurse again. Gradually, she slept longer in her crib, and when she did wake, we let her cry for just a little bit to see if she would go back to sleep. And then, one night, she did! She still wakes around 5 or 6 in the morning, and we nurse in bed and all sleep together -- now it's cozy, rather than a pain, which it used to be. And she still prefers me to her dad to some extent, but that too is changing. So tell your husband to lay off you -- you're doing a great thing for this baby in providing him with all the physical comfort and love and milk he wants and needs. Dad's turn will come, and in the meantime, he should be glad that the baby likes to play with him when he's awake and happy! Alexa
We do family bed and your predicament sounds familiar. It seems that babies go through periods of sleeping better and periods of greater neediness at night. My daughter is now a year and still sleeps with us. I remember times when I would have to hold her in my arms the whole night long, during times of teething and/or illness. And, I know how frustrating feeling sleep deprivation can be. There were times when I felt like throwing family bed out the window. But being at the end of the tunnel (for the most part), I am glad that I stuck with it. Your sleeping arrangements are a personal decision and I think you have to decide how much you can handle and what you are willing to give. Based on my experience, it does get better as they get older.
In terms of your current predicament, I would suggest having your husband put your baby to sleep. He may cry a lot at the beginning, but will eventually fall asleep and get used to this routine. This gives you a break, allows for some bonding time between them, and your baby will learn that he can receive comfort from his father as well. (We did this with my daughter and she is sleeping so much better and nursing much less at night). If your baby is sleeping in the crib until midnight, this means that he can sleep in places other than on your chest. You may try sideline nursing him once you move him to the bed (you lay on your side and he lays on the bed and nurses on the breast closest to the mattress). When he wakes up, you or your husband can rub his back or rock him. I know when they are crying and you just want to get back to sleep that the easiest thing to do is nurse them, which I have done many a time. But, other forms of soothing do work. They just take a little longer and require that you sit through a little bit of screaming. If your husband really wants to participate in the night time ritual of putting him back to sleep (be thankful), you can calm your baby down if he starts freaking out (by nursing or whatever), then give him back to your husband to rock to sleep. You can go back and forth like this until your baby is calmed and begins to learn how to be soothed by both parents. I know this sounds like a lot of work, but it has worked for us. Also, a dose of Tylenol before bedtime has helped us tremendously during peak teething times. And, your husband should know that babies do tend to prefer their mothers at this point. I don't think it has much to do with you. It will change with time. Good luck. Brightstar
I just had to write even though I am a single mom and so I can't say anything about the husband issue. However, I co-sleep with my daughter so I have some experience with that. First off, I don't think you are doing anything wrong. I carried (and still do) my baby all the time and all I can say it got easier as soon as she started crawling at 8 month and now almost walking at 10 1/2 month. She became more independent and doesn't want to be carried as much anymore and even lets me put her in the stroller at times, which is nice for my back. And for the most part she sleeps better - I think she wears herself out. When I was reading your post, two things came to mind: It might be a bit much for your baby to go from sleeping on top of you to sleeping in the crib. You might want to teach your baby nursing when side-lying during the day when you are both in a good mood and not too sleepy - it works great for us, as my daughter can nurse quite easily at night and I can sleep without her on top of me (even tough I miss that!). But we both had to learn how to do this. Also, whenever my baby cuts teeth things get unpredictable, but then again I try to think about how I am when I am in pain, and that helps me cope with my baby. Also, I don't want to tell you what to do, but I just don't believe in the teaching babies to sleep through the night but letting them cry it out in the crib - I wouldn't like to be treated that way and it seems to me it would break trust. But that is my personal opinion. I encourage you to read what Sears and Sears (Baby Book, Attachment Parenting Book) have to say about that. Good Luck!
Co-sleeping 9-month-old sleeps very lightly
December 2002Hi. I have been happily co-sleeping with my 9 month old son since his birth. Lately, however this is becoming more of a challenge. He goes to bed a couple of hours before my husband and I do, has been recently waking up when we come to bed. We now have to talk in whispers in bed, or not at all, and reading in bed is basically a thing of the past. I could do without these things, but we seem to be disturbing his slumber even being as quiet as mice. Even if he does stay asleep, he seems to be sleeping very lightly, moving around a lot, greatly invading my sleeping space, and usually ends up needing to be nursed back to a deep sleep. He has begun waking up at different times through the night again, after months of sleeping through. I know it is not great to get into the habit of nursing him back to sleep, but that is the only way to get him to easily go back to sleep with a minimum of disturbance and fussing. I'm also concerned about nap time, as he is now a crawling man. I surround him with pillows and toys, but it seems like only a matter of time before he makes it over the barriers and lands headfirst on the floor. We are reluctant to put our bed on the floor- does anyone have any other suggestions for me??? I don't really feel like any of us are ready to end the co-sleeping, but perhaps it is just time for a crib...I'd love to know what others have done in this situation. Thanks! Jessica
Hi We recently went through the same thing with our 13 month old. He had been acting as your child had since he was about nine months. We were very worried about him falling off bed, and we were also getting much less sleep than we used to get. Also- he was much more physical, biting, kicking, moving around in his sleep or between sleep. So----we bit the bullet, and we spent the last two weeks first night weaning him (took 5 nights) and then moving him to his crib and letting him learn to fall alseep on his own. He now falls asleep on his own in the crib and sleeps, without milk, from 6 PM until 6 AM with a few brief wakeups. This did involve some crying, but not as much as I thought, and he used to cry anyway with us there as he was trying to fall asleep. We also tackeled naps, and he now takes them in the crib as well. I would be happy to talk with you more if you want more specifics. We relied heavily on Weissbluth's book ''Healthy Sleep Habits Healthy Kids.'' E-mail me at Jesse
How about trying a crib from the time your child falls asleep until the first wake up? This will help you for the eventual transition away from the family bed. We ended the whole night family bed fairly early but have always brought the baby in at the 4-5 am nursing and still resort to it during times of illness. Except when the baby's very sick we seem to all sleep worse together. It just curbs the wake ups and allows us to cope with them horizontally. jw
When none of you are sleeping well in the same bed, it's time to try separate beds. You can put his crib in your room if a separate bedroom is too far away for your comfort, or you can put a mattress on the floor for him if you dislike cribs (just be sure the room is very well babyproofed, since he'll be able to get out of bed on his own!). And if/when he wakes up in the middle of the night, you can simply fetch him back into your bed and nurse him back to sleep. That's what most people I know do, that's what I've always done, and I really don't understand why so many people think nursing a baby back to sleep is a ''bad habit'' if that's the fastest and most convenient way for everyone to get back to sleep!!! For what it's worth, my son is now 22 months old and sleeps through the night (by which I mean 9 or 10 p.m. to 6 or 7 a.m.) much more often than not. We have NEVER done any type of sleep training, gentle or cry-it-out, I have always nursed him back to sleep when he wakes at night, and everyone in the house gets enough sleep.
Remember, too, that nothing you try has to be permanent if it doesn't work out for you or for your baby. But what you're doing now isn't working, so try something else. Don't be afraid to do what works now just because you're afraid you won't want to do it any more in another year or three years. Babies change much too fast to be concerned about that sort of thing. Holly
Our co-sleeping lives improved dramatically the minute we starting using the Graco Pack-N-Play. Any co-sleeping baby who takes a ''header'' off the bed while napping needs to be moved elsewhere. Wouldn't you begin to relax more knowing that you baby isn't going to silently crawl off the bed before you even know he's awake? When you're in bed with him you're very aware of him and he's safe, but a mobile baby needs a secure place to nap. We liked the Pack-N-Play because somehow it didn't make us feel like we were giving up on the co-sleeping plan, as though somehow it wasn't really a crib. We keep it at the foot of our bed, and lately we've been putting her in it at the start of the night too. She'll wake up after several hours and we simply pull her into bed with us. So far we're really happy with this solution. MEG
My daughter co-slept with us, although at about five to seven months we began putting her down in her crib and bringing her in the bed when she woke in the night to eat. Around nine months when in our bed she slept more lightly and then would wake frequently to nurse for a few minutes at a time. I found this very disruptive to my sleep and the very frequent nursing quite annoying, even though I loved nursing her and felt very positive about it overall. At that point I discontinued middle of the night feedings, allowing her to come into our bed and nurse at 5 a.m. Instead of bringing her into our bed to nurse and sleep, I went into her room and hugged and comforted her without taking her out of the crib. We had about 2 or 3 horrible nights of her being upset and then she got used to it. That solution worked really well for us. It sounds like your situation is somewhat different in that your child has never slept in a crib, but your son would likely transition well to it if you decide you are comfortable with this. Good luck. anonymous
I coslept with mine from 4 mo to 18 mo. Make sure to follow the safe sleep 7 (no alcohol/drugs, no soft bedding and pillows around baby, hard enough mattress, breastfeeding instead of bottle feeding, no smoking, cuddle curl). La Leche league has more information on this.
Cosleeping is controversial because of the suffocating risk but as long as you take the above precautions, you minimize this risk. And cosleeping was the only way I could function during the day since my baby woke up so often. Sleep training was never an option for me.
Oh and to add: at 18 months we moved my child to his own room on a floor bed and he started sleeping through without any wakes at 2.5 years. It happens on its own without sleep training eventually.
Hi there! I’ve bedshared with my LO for at least part of the night for his whole life. My spouse and I were never interested in sleep training. He’s now a little over 2.5 and it’s still working for both of us! If I felt like I needed to make a change to get him in his own bed, I’d probably read books to him about it and prep him for it before he made the move. We anticipate this might be on the horizon soon as I’m pregnant and while it’s still comfortable to have him in bed at this point, I could see that changing as I get bigger. Overall, it has been one of the best things I’ve done as a parent. It makes it so easy to respond to him at night when needed without losing much sleep. I also work full time outside the house so it really feels like such good bonding time after I’m away all day. There’s lots of info available on Instagram if you’re interested in resources on how to make it safe as possible and how to make changes to your arrangement if you’re interested! I like @heysleepybaby. So glad it’s working for your family 🩵
One thing to consider is all of the 4 month old milestones- sleep maturity, seeing further, becoming more social. It's not uncommon for babies to start to have a harder time sleeping with their parents or in their parents' room around this age. I never coslept, but I would say if it works for your family, go for it! If it ever isn't working- then you can adjust.
I've published a few blog posts on my bed-sharing/co-sleeping experience:
https://blog.pamelafox.org/2020/12/how-and-why-i-co-sleep-with-my-baby…
https://blog.pamelafox.org/2022/08/my-bed-sharing-setup.html
I'm now still bed-sharing with our second daughter who's 22-months old. I am still okay with it since I have ways to occupy myself while in bed (when she wants to be on me in the wee hours of the morning), specifically programming on my laptop or reading a kindle. I imagine I would go crazy if not.
I sometimes wonder if I made a big mistake and we should have tried sleep training more aggressively, so that I'd have the freedom to take an overnight trip. But I don't know if it'd work out for me, due to my own difficulties with sleep (see blog posts).
I can't recommend it one way or the other. You will likely get bored/antsy at some point of the arrangement, so hopefully you can find ways to occupy yourself during the contact naps and sleeping.
I’m far away from these early years so I’m not so emotional/anxious about the issues you bring up - any longer. I definitely was at the time worried I wasn’t making the right calls on sleep. My 2 cents are that your baby is an individual with their own predispositions and traits. Sleep training as an idea/ practice buys into the idea that all babies need to learn to sleep alone and self soothe in the future. It assumes that every baby can do that despite the neurological differences between individuals. It also assumes that the best time is really early- like under a year. My child was a good sleeper when she was ready to sleep- but didn’t require as much sleep as the “average” baby. She could self soothe for awhile to get to sleep, but needed reassurance and comfort in the middle of the night to get back to sleep. I was also exhausted, so the fact she was already next to me co-sleeping was fantastic. I didn’t have to stumble around. Some other mothers did make me feel like I was some sort of failure because my child didn’t nap for 2.5 hours everyday and because we co-slept. Co-sleeping helped our whole family to rest and to feel secure and safe. My child did not grow up maladjusted, dependent or unable to be self sufficient. I say trust your gut. The mom- hive, especially, can be very judgmental and thrives on fear. When my child was too big and active at night we transitioned to half nights in her bed. She was happy to have her own special place. Start in own bed- then moving over to the “big bed” at 2/3 am. This was around the toddler years- so she came over on her own. Slowly over time it was more and more on her own…. But even in later years every now and then she wanted back in for a half night for a week or so because she was going through some difficult development phase or school issue…. And that was ok. We let her- but by that time weren’t getting kicked in the ribs anymore!! I’m happy with how it all worked out. In our really busy and programmed lives, quality time to show love and patience is in short supply. For us- and for awhile, sleep time was a dedicated time and place to be together in comfort and love. As they get older it’s harder to do- so maybe rethink this as something to appreciate!
Hi, we have a 4.5 yo and almost 4 month old and would be happy to share our cosleeping experience in more detail if you’d like to reach out to me directly, but briefly, I was in a similar boat regarding the concept and looking back now wouldn’t want it any other way. Our oldest slept in a bassinet by the bed until he started rolling when we transitioned him to our bed. We took precautions outlined in the book, the No Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley to make our bed safe, e.g., mattress on the floor, I kept my hair tied back, light blankets, etc. I had a hard time breaking the nightly feedings as he approached one year old, but that was situational to us and COVID. We still all sleep in the same bed and when our second came along we weren’t sure how things would change. For the most part, they haven’t; he still sleeps between us and our daughter is in the bassinet by the bed. He isn’t woken by her during the night and most of the time he doesn’t wake her. We plan to continue this arrangement until he’s ready for his own bed. It’s wonderful to be all snuggled and am grateful it has worked for us.
When I read your post, my first thought was: how can you NOT keep co-sleeping?
We are a family by adoption, and co-sleeping is often recommended to help with attachment issues. Our daughter (now 18) had a hard time with the grief and fear that many babies experience upon adoption. The net result is that we co-slept for many months, nights and naptime, initially with a co-sleeping crib, then with a toddler bed right next to our bed, then with the two beds apart but in the same room. We moved back to our bedroom when she was maybe five. Thereafter, she often climbed in bed with us, and likely would have done so straight through high school if we had let her.
And now? We have a very affectionate relationship with our kid. She wanted to go to college near home, so she's at SF State, she talks with us daily, comes home for the weekends, hugs us a lot. We experienced minimal adolescent rebellion or strife. I wouldn't claim that all this amity and love comes from co-sleeping, but it sure must help that she had access to love and comfort during sleeping hours, particularly if she had a nightmare.
There's little question that sleep-training kids helps with parents' sleep, and most people sleep better alone. Through most of human history, however, people slept together as families, sometimes even in larger groups. In many countries this is still the practice, and to folks in those cultures, the separated arrangements we favor seem strange and cold. In the USA, most of us married and partnered folks choose to share beds with our S.O.s despite snoring and other sleep disruptions, because we want that time together.
So if you and your partner are comfortable with this arrangement, why change it?
I grew up in a culture where cosleeping was normal. When I moved to the US as an elementary school kid, we all got our own beds and there wasn't really any issues. And my husband and I always say... back in the caveman days, they didn't have their babies in separate caves.
The reality of having a baby and breastfeeding meant that the baby would end up in our king bed with us, often. We didn't mind. Once I stopped nursing, our child more or less slept in the crib that was pushed up against our bed, but sometimes in the middle of night when they wake up crying, I would put them in the middle of the bed to snuggle and sleep. When covid happened, we moved temporarily, and the new place only had king beds down far hallways from each other. Our toddler was hesitant to be so far away from us, in a new place, so we reverted back to co-sleeping all in the same bed. We all slept well, it was very cozy. When we moved again, this time to bedrooms with adjoining walls, our child was able to move to their own bed without really any transition. Some nights either my husband or I will offer to sleep on their bed and they get really happy to have company. And if we say let's all sleep in the big bed (parents' bed), they get really excited too. I don't know what we would have done differently. We never formally pushed them to sleep solely in their own bed, we basically rolled with it and looked to see how our child was feeling and what they can handle. There were times when something scared them (barking dogs outside, monsters, whatever) and they wouldn't want to sleep alone, but we would just offer to leave the bedroom door open and the nightlight on, and that was acceptable. We also offer that if they wake up in the middle of the night scared, they can come to our room. Our kid now 95% of the time sleeps alone in their own room. My husband and I have no regrets on cosleeping. They're only a baby/toddler/child once, we're never going to have these experiences again, and in a few more years when they are teenagers they might not even want to be in the same room with us! We're glad we got all those years of nighttime snuggles with our little one.
Please continue to do what is working for you and your family and don't worry about what other families are doing! You're doing it so so so right. I didn't co-sleep, neither of my kids had any interest in it, but I do know that when something stops working, you will be able to find a solution that helps you and your family. I love following https://heysleepybaby.com/ for normalizing all things baby sleep. You don't have to sleep train to have a good sleeper. (We did with my first and we didn't with my second and I can tell you that other than the stress sleep training caused ME, there has been virtually no difference.)
Keep doing what you're doing until it doesn't feel right for you. No need to change something that is working for everyone involved. And has been done for generations, by the way. As maybe you can tell, I'm a fan of cosleeping. After a while you'll come to a need for change, either because a new baby is on the way, or someone in the arrangement isn't sleeping well anymore. Then you can change it. It may be painful for a few days or weeks but everyone will settle on a new routine. This is how most things go in parenting. Good luck and enjoy the sleep you're getting, and the snuggles.
We are occasional cosleepers. I'm glad to hear that it has been working for you! My only word of caution is that we have friends who have first or second graders who still cosleep and it's past the point the parents want to do it. I do believe that there's a point when every kid will outgrow this, but it might be later than you think.
Both my babies coslept with us. The older one was quite the active sleeper, had difficulty falling asleep, and woke up often. We weren’t into using the cry-it-out method and he didn’t easily take to other methods which we didn’t wholeheartedly try. As difficult as it was having him in the bed with us parents, we tolerated it. When baby 2 came along a little over 2 years later, things got rough. Baby 2 was easier when it came to sleep issues but it was not good having a toddler and baby in bed with us. We eventually got the toddler to sleep in his crib about half the night for quite some time. Finally when the kids were a little older (maybe 8 months and nearly 4), we moved them to their own shared bedroom and told them they could come to our room when the first number on the digital clock was a 7. With some struggles and lots of nighttime wakings, this finally worked. In hindsight, I wish we had done something more proactively, especially for my benefit as I was nursing them and took responsibility for (too many) wakings. My advice is, while it’s very sweet to carry around a sleeping baby at 3 months, it’s not as great when they’re bigger, heavier, and you need time (and your body) to yourself. As to nighttime, babies generally start life by sleeping well and this can change as they get older. I recommend trying to put the baby down to sleep so they get used to it early. My “babies” are now 20 and 22 and gentle sleep training is definitely something I wish we had been more persistent about.
Every child is different so you’ll have to feel this out as your baby gets older. I have 2 kids who innately had very different sleeping demands. I did not plan on co-sleeping with my older child and we tried sleep training. The harder we tried, the more anxious she was at night. She ended up kicking my husband out of the master bedroom and he slept in her room. When she was about 7, she began to sleep on her own. When she hit her teenage years, she found the idea of sharing a bed repulsive and only allows it when we are traveling.
My son, who is 4 years younger than my daughter, did not want any contact when sleeping. He slept on his own before his older sister, in his own bed, in his room, with the door shut. He hates to travel and not being able to sleep in his own bed in his room is one of the main reasons why he doesn’t like to travel.
In order to figure what works best for your baby so that everyone gets proper sleep at night, try experimenting with different situations: co-sleeping same bed, same room different beds, separate rooms, hybrid. Whatever situation that maximizes the sleep quality for everyone in your household is the best solution.
I co-slept for years. I am a tad bit envious of you for having a child who sleeps well. We were desperate for sleep, and the only way we could manage any sleep was to have the baby next to me so I could feed the baby while half asleep. We tried sleep training -- didn't work and I couldn't stomach the crying. I longed for a solid 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep for so many years. Co-sleeping resulted in more sleep than sleep training / sleeping in separate rooms. Most importantly, co-sleeping felt right for me. It felt like the natural thing to do.
In lower elementary school years, the child was ok for me to leave the room after they fell asleep but wanted me in bed to help them fall asleep.
When the child turned 3rd grade, they decided they wanted to try sleeping alone but often wanted me to stay in bed until they got sleepy or were asleep. At age 10, the child started showing signs of puberty and started not wanting me around as much. The child did not need me anymore. Hormones kicked in, clearly signaling that it was time to start preparing for the next phase in life.
I spent hours upon hours bouncing the baby, crying and desperate for sleep, falling asleep next to my kid before the kid got sleepy and being rudely awaken by the kid. Now, the child gives me a quick hug and says "good night", closes the door, and turns off the light.
I let the child lead with many things, allowing the child to take the next step when the child was ready. We didn't potty train really. One day, the child refused to wear diapers and that was that. I breastfed until the child was almost 4 years old when the child decided they didn't want mommy milk anymore. I don't regret it. I feel that we have a very strong bond. When the child wanted to try sleeping alone, we supported. When the child indicated that they weren't ready yet, I was there. The child doesn't want me in bed anymore and I'm glad there was never a feeling that the child was forced to sleep alone when they didn't feel ready. My spouse was worried that we were not encouraging them to be independent. On the contrary, I feel that the child has healthy attachment with us which allows them to go out into the world with confidence.
The earlier years were difficult and I do not wish to go back to the days when I was severely sleep deprived. However, I am also thankful for the time I had with my baby.
This is a long way to say that if you like the arrangement you have now, don't worry and enjoy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Every child is different. Every family is different. Do what feels good for you. There's no "you're supposed to do x/ y/ z by this time." Kids develop in different ways and they all have their unique gifts and challenges.
Co-sleeping is more than ok. People from my country have co-slept for thousands of years. My kid co-slept with me regularly for almost 10 years, and I'm very proud of the kid that I have -- brilliant, kind, self-assured, and confident.
Cherish every moment with your beautiful baby.
We co-slept with my son (now 3) until he was about 5 months old, and honestly, we'd have continued longer if it hadn't stopped working for all of us. Up until about 4 months, he slept best that way (which meant we did, too) and my partner and I both really loved being so close. And then... honestly, it's hard to remember with any precision now how it devolved but his sleep got worse, the stretches of continuous sleep started to shorten where they'd been lengthening and we decided it was time to get some support around sleep training. My partner especially really missed having him in our bed/room but we quickly saw that we all slept much better post-sleep training. Post-sleep training, he mostly sleeps on his own but comes to our bed when he's sick, when we travel or if he wakes in the middle of the night (which is uncommon for him). It's sweet to get a night of snuggling and also always a much worse night of sleep for the adults.
I'm sure we would have eventually reached a point where co-sleeping felt more burdensome, even if he'd continued to sleep well that way-- wanting to have our bed to ourselves, to be able to go bed on our own schedule rather than his, etc. It definitely got trickier as he became more mobile-- it stopped feeling safe to leave him in our bed solo and we started to feel trapped with one of us stuck in bed with him at all times. I will say once he started sleeping 12 hours a night independently, the freedom of having that time to ourselves was pretty amazing. So I guess my advice is, enjoy it while it works for you! You'll know clearly enough if it stops working you and/or your kid, and you can always pivot then. Sleep training is a slog any time you do it (in my case, we've done it a few times, when life took us too far off our routines and we needed a reset) but there's no need to "fix" something before there's an issue!
i never thought i’d be cosleeping but my son literally couldn’t sleep without me. after ten weeks of fighting it (the first ten weeks of his life, wherein i thought i would die from sleep deprivation) i brought him in bed and he’s slept great ever since— generally 8-9 hours every night. we never did sleep training as i saw it cruel and unnecessary. as a result, our son is a great sleeper and can sleep anywhere (in any country or city or bed or couch or train or plane or time zone etc etc)— so long as i’m there. HOWEVER. he just turned three and we are still cosleeping. the other day i asked him when he’d be ready for his own bed and he replied ‘when i’m one thousand.’ so on one hand, it’s really sweet and we get the best snuggles and are SUPER close, but on the other hand, he really needs me (sometimes my husband will suffice) if he wants to fall and stay asleep. i don’t regret having him in bed with us, but it’s a sacrifice; other parents put their kids in bed and walk away (i can’t imagine this!). we invest a lot more time getting him to sleep— laying with him, coaxing him back into bed if he gets up, resting with him until he’s asleep. he’s our only kid right now, so i can’t speak to more than one. but i know he’ll soon be 15 and will want nothing to do with me, so i’m making the most of the snuggles while i can. 💕
Our daughter was exactly the same as your baby, and since we were all sleeping well we just kept at it - despite my friends at the time who were all sleep training their babies. Along came kid number 2 (when she was about 2 years old) and he wanted NOTHING to do with co-sleeping and was fine in his crib. We transitioned our daughter to a big girl bed around that time (she was happy to keep her baby brother company in their room) and the rest is history.
It's not for everyone, but it worked great for us (in fact, she's 18 now and when she comes to visit us in our room at night sometimes and plops down between us we joke about how she's always staking out her spot - don't worry tho, she never stays LOL). I wouldn't have changed a thing - it was great.
My attitude was always - do what works for the health of your family - if you are all sleeping well that way then GREAT! The next kid might be different. One day at a time.
Postscript - that same muffin graduated high school, got into Cal, and is happily adjusting to college life - turned out just fine!
Congrats on having a sleep situation that feels like it‘s working already! And also that you have a supportive pediatrician. I‘m surprised to hear that you haven’t found resources about co-sleeping, I don’t recall specifics but there were definitely some books and bloggers who offered tips and support.
We also co-slept with our first kid (who is now in middle school and sleeps in own bed) and it took a long time before she would nap anywhere other than the ergo. We night weaned at about 17 months (so I could go away for a weekend) and then moved her out of our room at 2.5 years, just before baby #2 arrived. (Baby #2 never co-slept, she needed her own space - each kid is different.)
Logistics: We (as a couple) are comfortable in a full size bed, so once baby was bigger, we got a twin mattress and put both mattresses together on the floor. Then to transition, we started putting her on the twin and calling it “her bed.” When it was time to move out, “her bed” went to the other room with her.
We didn’t sleep train either kid and they are both healthy sleepers now. Your arrangement sounds perfectly fine to me, and especially if the nights are working, no reason to change. Just don’t rub it in to your parent friends who are having a different experience! And be willing to try new things if the current set-up stops working. Hope you have many enjoyable nights with baby ahead!
You absolutely do not need to change what's working! Sleep training is not some sort of necessary developmental step, only a possible method of solving a serious sleep problem if you have one (and it's more often a parent's problem, not the child's). I never tried to train my kids to sleep alone or not to come to my bed at night; they each gradually did that on their own, when they were ready and completely without stress for anyone. They are now healthy young adults and have no trouble sleeping alone. (They also dress and feed themselves and manage their own hygiene, which are all things you will struggle with in various ways over the coming years, but yeah...you get through it, I promise!)
The only thing I would have done differently, in hindsight, is that I would not have bothered using a crib at all, or would have gotten rid of it earlier. An unfenced mattress that is big enough for a parent to cuddle the baby to sleep on, and low enough for the baby to climb in and out of independently, makes life so much easier! Once our firstborn had that arrangement, he no longer had to cry and wake me when he needed me at night; instead, he'd just come snuggle up to me in the wee hours and I usually only half-woke, if that. The second kid never went in a crib at all and was able to do the same by around 9 months. I did worry a little bit when I was pregnant with #2 about how we would manage 3 year old coming into the same bed as a newborn but it turned out fine. The older one always noticed if the baby was next to me rather than in the bassinet, and would climb in at dad's feet instead of next to baby! With both kids, the middle-of-the night relocation just naturally got later and rarer as they got older, and was almost entirely over by the time each started kindergarten.
Oh, and as for napping in a carrier, let me tell you how horribly inconvenient it is to have a toddler who *doesn't* nap very well in a carrier, so you're trapped in the house letting her sleep in a dark and quiet room for a couple hours in the middle of every day, hahaha. At that stage I really, really missed the days when I could be working, shopping, socializing, whatever, and the baby would just sleep on me while I went about my business!
Anyway. You may at some point find that your child's sleep habits are creating a problem for someone or something in your family's life, and you'll need to figure out how to solve that problem. But right now there's no problem, so enjoy the many advantages of "contact" sleeping and don't worry about it. No need to cross any bridges before you come to them, especially given that your child may very well lead you to swim or take a ferry instead, and you'll get to the other side all the same. ;)
Hi there,
Passionately responding to your post! We've co-slept with both of our kids and wouldn't do it any other way, despite the enormous pressure of the western world to train totally dependent children to be independent. Our kids are 8 and 4 and we savor all that non verbal, bodily connection we have shared over the years. It feels so good to know we've established that trust and security with them. I work in early childhood education and see nothing about cry it our that is for the child's benefit. The skills to self soothe comes from being around others who co-regulate with you. A kid crying alone in a room who eventually stops and falls asleep hasn't learned to self soothe; they've learned that they can't rely on their caregiver and go to sleep (with elevated cortisol levels, mind you) to conserve energy.
Our choice to co-sleep was not hard, but it still was hard to feel like we were in some freak minority of parents who couldn't just put their kid in a crib and walk away and not think about them for 12 hours. I definitely had bouts of jealousy towards friends who seemed to win back so much time by sleep training. It has helped immensely to find other like minded parents who are also putting their kids' needs at the forefront to normalize that it actually isn't normal for a baby to just go to bed on their own. It just feels that way in our culture.
I recommend looking into the work of Dr James McKenna who runs the Mother Baby Sleep Lab at the University of Notre Dame. Here is short interview he did with Ariana Huffington for Huff Post that I've sent to so many friends over the years. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/james-mckenna-co-sleeping-expert_b_71197…
Hope this soothes any doubts you are feeling and hope you can savor that baby so much!
HI, we too didn't think we'd cosleep past the baby stage but here we are ha. I find different kids have different needs, and when we put my two kiddos in a room together the older was happy to have their sibling in the room with them and was motivated to being more calm/quiet at bedtime.
For those who co sleep with toddlers/ older children- do you go to sleep the same time as your child? Our almost 3 year old always slept well in his crib...until we transitioned him to a toddler bed and he refused to sleep in his own room. We now co-sleep in our bed which is going fine, but the biggest struggle is he needs one of us to be there to go to sleep. We are taking turns, but it's tough to go to bed so early half the week. Any tips to transition out of this would be helpful.
Responding to the post requesting tips for staying in bed. I actually do like going to bed early, so I did often go to bed with the kid. If I am not sleepy, I would meditate. My spouse doesn’t like going to bed so early. So, my spouse often listened to pod cast or audio books while laying in bed to pass the time.